Is Islamic Outrage a Hoax? Who is manipulating who?

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posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 10:39 PM
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I ran into this post on another board...

Look at these pictures perportedly posted on Yahoo:









Notice how all the signs were obviously made by the same person?

Odd, don't you think?

This has got me wondering whether we truly understand this story.




posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 10:48 PM
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Thank you, Loam for this great find. They do indeed all look like the same handwriting.

Perfect English also. Hmmmmm.....

*I just dont know anymore*
I suspect an American or an English person wrote these.


tsk tsk



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 10:55 PM
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Since this is Skunk Works, let's speculate...


Wouldn't this be a convenient way to force the Europeans into support for the US position? ...and to also strengthen US public resolve???

Should the French riots be re-examined in light of this speculation?

Might be worth chasing...



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Cug

posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Perfect English also. Hmmmmm.....

*I just dont know anymore*
I suspect an American or an English person wrote these.



Well as there is a stereotypical London Bobby in the photo.. I see no reason not to think that those protesters could write in English as the appear to be in England.

As far as the same handwriting.. in many protests there are a small handfull of signmakers who hand out the signs to anyone willing to hold one.



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 10:59 PM
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Guys... the second pic from the top... isn't that a British cop? I believe I recognize the funny hat.

If I'm correct, that would certainly explain the reason why there's no English problems. Muslims living in London obviously speak a fine English.

EDIT: Ok Cug beat me to it by about 20 seconds!

[edit on 2-7-2006 by Djarums]



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 11:05 PM
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OMG!!! Too funny and so right! So much for my speculation...


*loam steps away from the keyboard*

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posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 11:58 PM
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What the he-- "Europe is a cancer, Islam is the answer"?!

These pictures are truly hilarious. More ammo for the Crusade.

So yes, loam, I think you might be onto something here and your pictures are good. Even if there is only one guy writing them as Cug said, it still indicates that the protestors are not very self motivated. Powerful slogans tho'. They are well conceived if one wants to invoke hostility toward Islam. Seems like that's the goal of this.

[The bottom guy looks like a Jedi, so that could indicate true power is with these protestors. Souljah may be more qualified to comment.
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posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 12:24 AM
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loam, perhaps you are not far from the truth of the matter.

Danish flags are being burned all over the Middle East. Gaza, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Iran, Syria...ect. Are we to believe that protesters simply bought all these flags at the flag shop? Where are all these flags coming from?


What about the original cartoons? They were originally printed back in September. Why is the protesting happening now?

I think there is a big possibility of manipulation here.

If so who is behind it?

Perhaps it is the leaders in the east who wish to destroy western civilization. They may be trying to rally people against the west.

Maybe it is the west setting up the east so that they can show that they need to attack them or rally support from European countries that wanted nothing to do with the War on Terror.

Maybe it is a part of the whole Muslim versus Jew thing. The culture editor of Jyllands-Posten (original cartoon source), Flemming Rose, came up with the idea to soliciting illustrators to draw their interpretations of Mohammed. We all know what happened after that. Flemming Rose is a Jewish name isn't it? Not to say that all Jews are anti-Islamic but this is Skunk Works and this is a theory bouncing around.
But what happens next? Iran Daily is having a contest looking for holocaust cartoons. Not Christ cartoons. Not European cartoons. They are targeting the Jews in this "retaliation."

Is this a Muslim/Jew thing? Is this an idea from the Iranian presidency to get the rest of the Middle East to help him in his will to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth?

There are a lot of questions out there. Are we able to sit at the computer and find out the answer?



posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 02:36 AM
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Since long before the Sydney riots, I've maintained that this, 'softly, softly, don't offend the Moslems', policy of the West, was designed to build fear and loathing towards Islam from Westerners, to ready us for war.

Now there is another thread going about a Russian MP claiming the same thing, with the added claim that WW3 is set for this March.

Funny with all this outrage over cartoons, no one's talking about the 5 people, including one woman, who were stabbed by people of "middle eastern appearance" at Bondi Beach.

No riots from those "yobbos", the pro-Islamics so wanted to blame for the other riots, no retaliation, no boycotting of Kebabs, nothing. These 5 non-Islamics were just taken to hospital by ambulance... and that it seems was the end of that news.

But what will that treatment of the story do to any sence of tolerance and acceptance the non-Islamics are asked to feel for Moslems, when cartoons are so much more 'news worthy' than innocent young lives?

The message the West are getting from Global Mainstream Media, ("Them") is that we must "understand" and forgive every violent act of Islamics and beg their forgivness for offending them by being who we are. No just and sane man can accept this flow and tone of "dialogue"(used VERY loosely) so anger is building into hatered and all that follows hate.

Myself, I will continue to take each person as I find them on a personal level and leave opinion open of those I'm only able to guess at, but as for ANY 'group' (Gov. media, church etc) that puts an 'ideal' above justice and the lives of anyone, they will remain the 'enemies' I suspect.



posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by Umbrax
loam, perhaps you are not far from the truth of the matter.

Danish flags are being burned all over the Middle East. Gaza, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Iran, Syria...ect. Are we to believe that protesters simply bought all these flags at the flag shop? Where are all these flags coming from?


Excellent point!

I'm going with my initial instinct and doing some research on this one.



posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 08:22 AM
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Let's assume that the riots are being manipulated by some group such as the CIA or other with intent to show muslems in a bad light! Suppose the USG convinced certain papers to reprint the cartoons, made the signs ahead of time and passed them out to the protestors. This does not change the fact that muslems are burning building, chanting for the heads of the cartoonist and crying 'Death to Israel and Death to America!' Even if they are being played like a fiddle, the tune is the same that we have been hearing over and over for decades now. Take for instance, Iran has offered $120 dollars to the twelve people that can come up with the best cartoon, lambasting the hollacaust...... the hollacaust for god's sake. Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it a Danish paper that printed the cartoons that were drawn by Danes? What does that have to do with Israel, Jews and the Hollacaust? Typical Muslem reaction, which is the whole freaking point I am trying to make. The whole thing, whether manipulated or not is typical Muslem reaction. You can lead a Muslem to protest but you do not have to make them look like idiots, they do a fine job of that on thier own. Scream manipulation all you like, I see mass hysteria whipped up by frenzied belief turned into uncontrollable anger from within......PERIOD!



posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by Cug

Originally posted by dgtempe
Perfect English also. Hmmmmm.....

*I just dont know anymore*
I suspect an American or an English person wrote these.



Well as there is a stereotypical London Bobby in the photo.. I see no reason not to think that those protesters could write in English as the appear to be in England.

As far as the same handwriting.. in many protests there are a small handfull of signmakers who hand out the signs to anyone willing to hold one.

No kidding! But do the protesters KNOW what the signs say???????



posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 08:48 AM
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What about those faked cartoons that were distributed by that two Imams? Is there any info on what other affiliations they might have?



posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 08:53 AM
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Does anyone know how many were arrested for these demonstrations?

I remeber when a million Brits turned up in London to protest the Iraq War there was alot of arrests. Some were just innocent people voicing their opinions to a Government that was elected into power by the people. They didn't like the action being taken and said so which should be the whole point to a free society. Obviously it's not a free society.

It seems if a caucasian Brit gets offended and protests they get arrested. When a muslim gets offended they run riot and burn flags and buildings and are back home for prayer time.



posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Thank you, Loam for this great find. They do indeed all look like the same handwriting.

Perfect English also. Hmmmmm.....

*I just dont know anymore*
I suspect an American or an English person wrote these.


tsk tsk


Err, have you seen the grammar mistakes in these forums from english speaking people?....

Education in Europe, at least in proper grammar and sentence construction, is a lot better than that of the U.S.

You do know that many of those Muslims are second and third generation people born in European countries right?...

BTW, you think that maybe all those people are white and are disguising as Arabs? i think not.... nobody is puting a gun to their head to raise those signs...they are doing that by their own free will.



posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 01:06 PM
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Ohh this rabbit hole goes deep. Very deep.
If you're truly interested in crawling down, I might recommend this link-
Designer Villans
from a forthcoming book for further perusal and edification.


A conspiracy theorist could handily conclude from Islamic history that Rome had carefully nurtured Mohammad to create a religious discipline that solidified his fellow Ishmaelites into a systematized form of evildoing which the papacy could employ or punish according to its needs in solidifying world order under itself.


>SNIP<


Rome masterfully deployed Islam to increase the material wealth of the papacy at the expense of the Byzantine churches. An emergency created by Islamic leaders served as a magnet to draw out of Europe its able-bodied men, who entrusted their properties to Rome so that they might risk their own lives recovering eastern Christianity from the Infidel, and rescuing holy relics – while providing safety for pilgrims adoring them – in Palestine. We’re talking, of course, about the Crusades.


Lots of history there concerning Rome, the Jesuits, Mohammad, and the origin of Islam right up to today.

Just sharing some info.



posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by Umbrax
loam, perhaps you are not far from the truth of the matter.

Danish flags are being burned all over the Middle East. Gaza, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Iran, Syria...ect. Are we to believe that protesters simply bought all these flags at the flag shop? Where are all these flags coming from?


Why not?.... Is not as if flags are very expensive and only the government or rich people can buy them.... They are readily available at any major stores that i am aware of. Or are flags that expensive and that rare to buy in Europe?


Originally posted by Umbrax

What about the original cartoons? They were originally printed back in September. Why is the protesting happening now?


I have seen that this outrage has been around since that time, Muslim clerics went around countries propagating and showing these cartoons and showing others which were never published by the European newspapers.


Originally posted by Umbrax
I think there is a big possibility of manipulation here.

If so who is behind it?


i think there are a lot of people who are waking up to the Islamic extremist threat. IMO this is not "manipulation by the rich and powerful."


Originally posted by Umbrax
Perhaps it is the leaders in the east who wish to destroy western civilization. They may be trying to rally people against the west.
......................


Why in the world would rich people want to destroy the same society that keeps them rich and made them rich?.... The Muslims extremists are the ones that want to "destroy the west," or do you think that maybe even the conquering spree that the Muslims went through in the middle ages were all a product of the present governments of the west?.....

"When people forget history, history is bound to repeat itself."


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posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 01:09 PM
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www.abovetopsecret.com...


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posted on 8-2-2006 at 11:55 AM Post Number: 1979085 (post id: 2000978) - printer friendly


Muhammad Cartoon Proven To Be Fakes


worldnetdaily.com...

GLOBAL JIHAD
'Muhammad cartoon'
proved fake
Imam added 3 especially provocative images to fuel outrage

Since last week, Muslims throughout the world have engaged in protests and deadly riots in response to 12 cartoons caricaturing Islam's prophet Muhammad published in September by the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten and three much more provocative images that Muslim leaders have been unable to document.

Just like Serpo there are those that wish to bend the lines between the truth to suite their own agenda's



posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 01:14 PM
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Rome deployed Islam?......

Oh boy....... Pretty soon people are going to start claiming that president Bush was the emperor of Rome back in the days and he made up the Muslim crusades......



posted on Feb, 8 2006 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by robertfenix

Muhammad Cartoon Proven To Be Fakes

Yes, we know. Or at least I and a few others know. I´ve been saying this for ages, but who is listening? :shk:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You´ll notice that I repeat this story throughput this thread and there are links as well. Please take a look. I feel that I´m invisible. Am I on "global ignore"? The danish delegation of imams who went to the middle east with a 43 page portfolio lied and presented really ugly offending images NOT printed in the newspaper.


edit: sorry, it was the wrong post I linked to. I corrected the link.

[edit on 2006/2/8 by Hellmutt]





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