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Originally posted by Mirthful Me
Originally posted by Boatphone
I responed to this post before, but I look now and it is gone. Was this put in the trash bin?
Thanks very much for posting these photos; I think it is a real conspiracy that these are not shown more in the media. and are possibly being censored on ATS!!
The original issue was not the content of the video, it was that the original site hosting it had offensive advertising, and ATS doesn't allow linking to such sites. The point loss was actually a 1,000 points for two warnings, from two different Moderators for removing Staff edits (the member is quite aware of this), and is also quite aware as to the reasons the original thread was removed, anything inferred otherwise is disingenuous at best.
Now that that's all cleared up, I'm sure we can now focus on the topic at hand, the images within the video... And only that topic.
The soldiers that actually go over there come back and tell us what it is actually like.
Haha, means "Up yours!" in Iraq and other parts of the Middle East, bit like the middle finger here in the West.
Oh the culture diffrences!
Originally posted by worldwatcher
Oh stop it and grow up all of you!!! Do you really think that every American soldier is a tool of this administration??? Do you think every American soldier rapes and sodomizes young Iraqis? Do you think all Iraqis hate Americans? Do you think all Iraqis love Americans? Do you think all the pictures coming out of Iraq are being covered up because they have happy smiling people in them?
IF you think there is a definitive answer to any of these questions, then you have no grasp on reality or the situation in Iraq.
Of course there are positives and people who feel truly liberated, but there are also many images that you don't see of mutilated children, crying families and disrupted lives.
War is not pretty. There will be times of both happiness and sadness for these people. You bomb a school and then rebuild it, you bomb their electrical infastructure, then turn the lights back on, you get rid of a tyrant but open the doors to lawlessness and terrorism. Double edge sword everytime.
I'm relieved to see that children at least can still smile even after what has happened to their country. Those smiles you see are that of hope and thank god people can still hope or we will all be screwed. You also see the smiles of people because the majority of our soldiers are good, decent human beings with compassion who can see beyond what they are told and see the innocence in the young faces they are surrounded by.
If we would all stop with the bickering partisan crap and understand that this is much deeper than the propaganda that is used by both sides, we might actually get somewhere and fulfill real goals and eliminate real problems.
Iraq has been hurt, the people have been hurt, many will recover (see the smiling faces) and many will not (find the faces of the dead).
temper the good with the bad and still you will see that currently the negatives are outweighing the posititives. You don't see the pictures of the over 100 thousand victims who have died since this war began, so don't claim that a few pictures of happy faces can erase and justify all that has occurred so far.
And yes the media doesn't show as much positive pics as some of you may like, but they don't show enough of the bad pics that I think should be shown too, so either way you look at it there will be claims of propaganda, hopefully you the members and readers can find for yourselves a variety of pics and stories to support both the good and bad of this war and make a balance judgement of the current situation in Iraq.
and btw the source of these pics seems to be several websites, which were all compiled on one here:
Originally posted by knowseek
Originally posted by worldwatcher
Oh stop it and grow up all of you!!!
I hate to throw a one liner out there, but WELL DONE...
I like the way you think!
Originally posted by xmotex
The reality is, Iraqis did greet us as liberators.
Yes, the roadside bomb is simply a badly misunderstood traditional Iraqi greeting ceremony. Like tossing flowers and waving flags, only louder.
They do want us there and anyone who disagrees needs to take it up with the millions of iraqis that risked their lives to vote!
Yes, and they voted mostly for the United Iraqi Alliance, one of whose major campaign platforms was the earliest possible timetable for withdrawal of US forces from Iraq. Another was closer ties with Iran. And yet another was the formalization of Iraq as an Islamic state. Yay
Originally posted by Nakash
Uber, if your calling people here terrorist apologists, may I suggest you quit the board and return to fauxnews.com or some other comfy Neocon propaganda website? Iraq is a mess right now, if you want to know the Iraqi mindset just watch Al Jazeera or some of the far worst Arab networks which make them look pro-Bush (which we in America don't even hear about).
[edit on 27-1-2006 by Nakash]
Originally posted by pantheria
Mean while as hundreds of ton of depleted uranium are being dumped in the form of munitions radation enough to create a hundred generations of birth defects, Being breathed in and assorbed by civilian and soldier alike what legacy what will history say of America's war on terror as many of the photos of Iraqs newest citizens those that are recognizable as human bear wittness.
Originally posted by Souljah
What a Great Piece of Military Propaganda. I mean, that was really Awesome. I bet some Military PR got a Medal for this Photo presentation.