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reply posted on 16-1-2006 @ 11:55 AM by Quest
Here is a picture of the sun without a filter.

www-fusion.ciemat.es...

As you can see it is actually almost white. Stars have misleading names like "blue" "orange" and "red" because they lean toward them depending on age.

But in the end, stars pump out white light.

The sun looks orange because white - blue = orange. The atmosphere (Nitrogen/Oxygen) refracts blue, thus we see a blue sky. However, since it gets a stab at the white sun first, it fliters out a good bit of blue leaving a bight orange color. As the sun sets, its light passes through more atmosphere giving it a change to absorb even more blue and bend the spectrum toward red making the sunset VERY orange.

So we see the white sun as orange through a blue filter..

Hope that helps.


reply posted on 18-1-2006 @ 03:17 PM by E_T
Originally posted by Quest
Here is a picture of the sun without a filter.

As you can see it is actually almost white. Stars have misleading names like "blue" "orange" and "red" because they lean toward them depending on age.

But in the end, stars pump out white light.
First of all color of stars doesn't depend directly from their age, color depends only from surface temperature.
And just try looking any bright light source, no matter what color cast its light has it tends to look whitish.

Sunlight contains all colors of optical spectrum but wavelength of radiation peak depends on temperature so there's certain color tint always.
(actually there ain't such thing as perfectly white light where amount of all radiation in all wavelengths would be equal)
Blue color of sky is caused because atmosphere scatter shorter wavelength light more effectively, while amount of scattered light from total is extremely small it's enough to cause blue color of sky. Without this scattering daytime sky would be black and stars would show like in moon.
Atmosphere's effect get's considerably bigger only when sun is lower than about 30 degrees. And when sun is near horizon effect gets so big that only longer wavelengths get through causing reddish/yellow colors of sunsets.





So we see the white sun as orange through a blue filter..
Completely wrong, have you ever happened to look anything through color filters?
You'll just see different shades of filter's color.


Green flash can occur at exact moment of sunset if atmospheric conditions are right.
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov...


reply posted on 19-1-2006 @ 09:47 AM by E_T
Originally posted by dirtyrat5000
if the sun was a different colour the odds are the sky would be too.
It wouldn't be different colored, unless light would be very strongly colored and even then it wouldn't make scattering of longer wavelength light any bigger...
So the less incoming light contains shorter wavelengths (blue light) the darker the sky would be.


Originally posted by BlackGuardXIII
So I asked my teacher,'If the sun is yellow, and the sky is blue, and blue and yellow make green, is that why almost all the plants are green?'
And again you're mixing our additive color systems to nature which doesn't need such methods.

There are actually 2 types of chlorophyll, named a and b. They differ only slightly, in the composition of a sidechain (in a it is -CH3, in b it is CHO). Both of these two chlorophylls are very effective photoreceptors because they contain a network of alternating single and double bonds, and the orbitals can delocalise stabilising the structure. Such delocalised polyenes have very strong absorption bands in the visible regions of the spectrum, allowing the plant to absorb the energy from sunlight.
The different sidegroups in the 2 chlorophylls 'tune' the absorption spectrum to slightly different wavelengths, so that light that is not significantly absorbed by chlorophyll a, at, say, 460nm, will instead be captured by chlorophyll b, which absorbs strongly at that wavelength. Thus these two kinds of chlorophyll complement each other in absorbing sunlight. Plants can obtain all their energy requirements from the blue and red parts of the spectrum, however, there is still a large spectral region, between 500-600nm, where very little light is absorbed. This light is in the green region of the spectrum, and since it is reflected, this is the reason plants appear green.

www.chm.bris.ac.uk...


www.ucmp.berkeley.edu...

And considering about colors, there isn't actually such thing, it's just that "wetware" (you hopefully have working) behind eyes interprets/presents different wavelength electromagnetic radiation as such. (actually wavelength of strongest radiation is what causes color)
Remember that many animals have "BW" vision which doesn't separate colors, only intensity of radiation.

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reply posted on 9-2-2006 @ 08:43 PM by Stratrf_Rus
Originally posted by Quest
Here is a picture of the sun without a filter.

www-fusion.ciemat.es...

As you can see it is actually almost white. Stars have misleading names like "blue" "orange" and "red" because they lean toward them depending on age.

But in the end, stars pump out white light.

The sun looks orange because white - blue = orange. The atmosphere (Nitrogen/Oxygen) refracts blue, thus we see a blue sky. However, since it gets a stab at the white sun first, it fliters out a good bit of blue leaving a bight orange color. As the sun sets, its light passes through more atmosphere giving it a change to absorb even more blue and bend the spectrum toward red making the sunset VERY orange.

So we see the white sun as orange through a blue filter..

Hope that helps.


The atmosphere's color has nothing to do with refraction but only absorbtion.

If you climb a high mountain the atmosphere is violet or dark blue because this part of the spectrum is the smallest wavelength and so is blocked first.

As you go further down the sky turns more greyish....

If you were to have a thick enough atmosphere such as Venus, the light continues down the spectrum...

Venus' atmosphere is orange at the region considered to be "sea level".
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