War Is Peace
Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
Greenpeace is NOT the group that is trying to disable/sink these whaling vessels... they are merely trying to get in the way (passive resistance, look
it up- search Gandhi)
I used to be a sailor. Sailing on any sea is inherently dangerous, a countless people have died simply doing that.
Any conduct which deliberately and intentionally endangers anyone at sea is reprehensible and indefensible.
I don't accept rationalizations for violence dishonestly euphemized as "peace". What these bozos are doing is not passive, and it is not
If you walk up to a woman and pin her against a wall, prohibiting her from moving, that's non-violent, right? Anyone can do it, right? And it's okay
to slip her shoes off so she can't go anywhere, right?
Because you're not hurting
her, so it's okay? Right?
This is the same principle – and worse. If you disable a ship at sea and leave it adrift, people can die as a result.
A ship without propulsion cannot maneuver away from storms or other hazards, can run aground or capsize in heavy seas, and crewmen can die
attempting to unfoul screws vandalized by these Greenpeace thugs.
The Sea Shepherd is using force – dangerous force – to interfere with a lawful activity. Just because they disagree with it does not justify their
violating international law.
Please consider what you're trying to rationalize away.
There is no moral difference between trying to disable a ship legally making way on the high seas and torching a bunch of SUVs ala the Earth
Liberation Front -- with the exception that the SUVs don't have people in them.
Interfering with the right-of-way of ships peacefully navigating on the high seas is
piracy. If a pirate leaves you adrift for sport instead of
robbing you, he's still a pirate.
Terrorism is the use of violence or the threat of violence to achieve political objectives.
The Sea Shepherd is threatening to damage and disable the Nisshin Maru and is making deliberate maneuvers with the expressed intent of doing so.
terrorism, by definition.
Lying about it – and attempting to impugn those who are honest about it -- doesn't change that.
Nor does it save whales.
How To Actually Save The Whales
I'm not pro-whaling. It's obvious that whale populations have suffered terribly due to centuries of excessive and irresponsible whaling.
I support a complete worldwide moratorium on whaling until populations return to healthy and sustainable levels, and that will take a long time.
And it must be done legally.
Doing what the Sea Shepherd is doing is wrong. Instead of this juvenile grandstanding, they could peacefully monitor and document the activities of
the ship they are harassing and use the documentation it produces to promote a complete ban on whaling.
These sorts of theatrics, on the other hand, seem calculated to generate opposition to their cause. Certainly, I cannot in good conscience align
myself with such lawlessness.
For those who express disappointment in me for believing this, I challenge them to explain how this is any different from anyone else justifying
“war for peace”.
It's hypocrisy, and those who support this have no
moral foundation for criticizing President Bush using the same justification.
You may choose the side of war and violence, or the side of peace and cooperation, but not both.