Bird Flu is a Hoax, page 3
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reply posted on 10-7-2008 @ 09:46 AM by ProTo Fire Fox
reply to post by esecallum



I think that you are correct, you quoted it saying " AH5N1 avian virus does not currently have the capacity to cause a human pandemic". Which is correct it does not have enough steam behind it to cause a Pandemic, but it does have enough power to start infecting the odd person here and there. The fact is that H5N1 is a massive problem that needs to be addressed, it might not be a super-massive problem right now, but it will be sooner-or-later.

Fox



reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 01:48 AM by BloodVortex
Originally posted by makeitso
I thought I would help out. Here's what the BJM says.

BMJ, doi:10.1136/bmj.38649.389005.DE (published 24 October 2005)

The lack of sustained human-to-human transmission suggests that this AH5N1 avian virus does not currently have the capacity to cause a human pandemic. But, given the known potential for antigenic shift—either from a gradual process of adaptive genetic mutation within the virus or by a snap gene reassortment with a human influenza A virus6—the virus could acquire the mechanism for rapid human transmission and cause explosive global spread, facilitated by current air travel. Pigs and humans seem to be the “mixing vessels” for genetic exchange when coinfected by both animal and human flu viruses. Close domestic proximity of fowl, pigs, and people facilitates this, a situation common in Asia.





Someone from infectious diseases control came and talked to some people at my last course about bird flu. That was almost exactly what I was told and with the research being done on virus mutations I don't doubt that it's a threat, even if not right at this moment.
I'm not going to sit here and deny the possibility of an outbreak when I know it could happen one day but I'm not going to fear it either so if this whole AH5N1 thing is a hoax to try and provoke fear, they failed.


reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 12:55 PM by toochaos4u
Symptoms in Birds:

Avian influenza is an infectious disease of birds caused by type A strains of the influenza virus. The disease occurs worldwide. While all birds are thought to be susceptible to infection with avian influenza viruses, many wild bird species carry these viruses with no apparent signs of harm.

Other bird species, including domestic poultry, develop disease when infected with avian influenza viruses. In poultry, the viruses cause two distinctly different forms of disease – one common and mild, the other rare and highly lethal. In the mild form, signs of illness may be expressed only as ruffled feathers, reduced egg production, or mild effects on the respiratory system. Outbreaks can be so mild they escape detection unless regular testing for viruses is in place.

In contrast, the second and far less common highly pathogenic form is difficult to miss. First identified in Italy in 1878, highly pathogenic avian influenza is characterized by sudden onset of severe disease, rapid contagion, and a mortality rate that can approach 100% within 48 hours. In this form of the disease, the virus not only affects the respiratory tract, as in the mild form, but also invades multiple organs and tissues. The resulting massive internal haemorrhaging has earned it the lay name of “chicken Ebola”.
From:
www.who.int...

So in other words HSN1 has the same effect and symptoms in poultry as worms and Coccidiosis which has always existed? No new real effects shown in birds as cocci can drop birds dead within 24-48 hours.

Effects in humans:
* Fever
* Sore throat
* Muscle aches
* Headache
* Lethargy
* Conjunctivitis (eye infections)
* Breathing problems
* Chest pains

The same symptoms people get from the "common flu" every year?
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