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Originally posted by Fromabove
Jesus died for the sins of the entire world once and for all, one time, for all time. It is finished. Now while the offer for forgiveness is available to all, not all will be available to receive it.
For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, will we be saved by his life!
Not only that, but we also continue to boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received our reconciliation.
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so death spread to everyone, because all have sinned.
Certainly sin was in the world before the law was given, but no record of sin is kept when there is no law.
Nevertheless, death ruled from the time of Adam to Moses, even over those who did not sin in the same way Adam did when he disobeyed.
He is a type of the one who would come.
But God's free gift is not like Adam's offense.
For if many people died as the result of one man's offense, how much more have God's grace and the free gift given through the kindness of one man, Jesus Christ, been showered on many people!
Nor can the free gift be compared to what came through the man who sinned. For the sentence that followed one man's offense brought condemnation, but the free gift brought justification, even after many offenses.
For if, through one man, death ruled because of that man's offense, how much more will those who receive such overflowing grace and the gift of righteousness rule in life because of one man, Jesus Christ!
Consequently, just as one offense resulted in condemnation for everyone, so one act of righteousness results in justification and life for everyone.
Originally posted by garyo1954
If Jesus died for all our sins for all time, then why aren't we in heaven?
What would be the use of dying for something if you were going to let it rot?
I seem to remember somewhere something about treating others the way you would have them treat you. If it is otherwise now I wish God would tell us. You see if someone sins against me then by your accounting it is right and just in Gods eyes that I treat him/her with equal evil.
Still, what is the difference in God's forgiveness and Lucifer's obliging sin?
So far all I can see is either there isn't any which means there is no true good or evil, or there is a difference and we don't know what it is.......
Originally posted by WolfofWar
Well in common mythology, Lucifer represents the evil side of humanity and nature.
Originally posted by garyo1954
I am beginning to see how little difference there is in the way God sees sin and the way Lucifer treats it.
Maybe they both are just sitting back saying, "Since we can't beat them we might as well join them?"
Of course this messes up the idea of true Good and true Evil.......oh me!
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.