North Korea Calls Rumsfeld Illiterate Psychopath

Fairly funny jab from North Korea regarding Rumsfeld there. I can't exactly disagree with them either. For all intents and purposes, the comments are right on the mark.

asia.reuters.com...

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea described Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld as a dictatorial psychopath and a politically illiterate old man for criticizing Pyongyang and predicting its system would collapse.

"His remarks only go to prove that he is just an old man politically illiterate as he cannot measure up the present reality when all the countries are promoting peaceful co-existence, reconciliation and cooperation irrespective of ideologies and beliefs," it said in a long commentary.

"It is not likely at all that he would speak truth as he is obsessed with wantonly harassing peace and security in different parts of the world and igniting wars. His outbursts, therefore, cannot be construed otherwise than a desperate shrill cry of a psychopath on his death bed."

I'll be damned. They have psychics in North Korea too!

Raughing out Roud! (ROR).

So, tell me if I've got this straight. Psychopaths are calling Rummy a psychopath? Wow. deep.

Maybe this is why the state run media of N. Korea, run by Kim, is so upset........:

"Pentagon | 9/23/03 | SOD Donald Rumsfeld

We have discussed transforming our combined forces, which is both a necessity but it's also an opportunity to modernize the alliance and adapt it to the changing security requirements of region and world and let there be know doubt we are in a new security environment. This is a different period than the preceding period when our relationship was fashioned and put in place. We've pledged to work together to employ new technologies and capabilities to transition to a more capable and sustainable U.S. military presence on the peninsula.

This includes expanding the role of ROK Defense Forces in defense of the peninsula, relocating the U.S. Garrison at Yongsan and consolidating U.S. Forces around several key hubs. While the size and shape of the U.S. footprint in the world and the region may evolve and in deed it will evolve not just in Northeast Asia but in Europe and elsewhere across the globe we're addressing this subject in an important way. There certainly would be no change at all in our commitment to the defense of South Korea and just let there be no doubt about that. Our goal is to reinforce deterrence and to position the alliance for the period ahead.

We've undertaken similar steps with respect to NATO, we have adjusted Command structure there just as we've made significant changes in our U.S. Command structure and all of these things are a reflection of the fact that the 21st Century security environment is so notably different. And by taking advantage of new technologies and capabilities now battle tested in the global war on terrorism we've improved ability to counter North Korea's advantages. And by improving the force structure of both our countries we can reduce unnecessary burdens on both sides and invest in these improved capabilities.

I also want to say that we do appreciate Korea's assistance in Afghanistan and in Iraq, it certainly demonstrates the spirit of the Korean people, they know well the value of democracy and the importance of victory over aggression and tyranny. Like the people of Iraq and Afghanistan the people of Korea had to rebuild from war and from devastation and today you're Republic provides and excellent example of what Iraq and Afghanistan conceivable could become with patience and perseverance.

We appreciate the positive role that Korea is able to play in the global security arena and the professionalism and the capabilities of Korea's Armed Forces. As discussions between our two governments move forward we will work out the details of our new force structure arrangements for the peninsula and will incorporate new capabilities in Korea as they become available.

Over the next 4 years the United States has plans to make a substantial investment in the alliance, strengthening more than 150 of our various military capabilities. And we've been assured that Korea will compliment those investments with improved capabilities of their own, these parallel investments demonstrates not only the partnership between our two countries but also our determination to do what's necessary to ensure deterrence, security and stability on the peninsula.

For 50 years the forces of the United States and in Korea have stood shoulder to shoulder in defense of peace and freedom. We're proud of that and during those 5 decades of friendship Korea has prospered politically and economically.

On my roundtable in my office I have a glass top and under that glass top is a photograph of the Korean peninsula, it's taken from a satellite at night, maybe some of you have seen it. There are practically no lights in the North of DMZ except in Pyongyang, south of the DMZ just an energy and vitality and as represented by that electricity. What a difference between freedom and oppression, in one the light of liberty out shines everything and in the other the darkness of the dictatorship is so obvious even from so many miles in outer space.

The armistice that stopped the spread of communism in Korea was I suppose one of the first victories of the Cold War if one thinks about it, a Cold War against communism that latest most of my adult lifetime. Throughout that long struggle many doubted that we would ever live to see the day when communism would fall but it did, it has fallen everywhere except for a few lonely outposts which in a sense crumbling by their own hands. While the situation in North Korea sometimes looks bleak, I'm convinced that one-day freedom will come to the people of the North and light up that oppressed land with hope and with promise.

When President Bush visited the DMZ in February of last year he talked about Americas vision for all the Korean people. He said that we see a peninsula that one-day is united in commerce and in cooperation, not divided by barbed wire or fear. Korean grandparents spending their final years with those they love, Korean children thriving not starving while an Army is fed. Stability built on the reconciliation of it's two halves but until that day we have to continue to do what we must do, we have to build on the strong relationship between our two countries, we have to continue to strengthen security and promote peace and prosperity and we have to hope to see the people of the North brought in to the light of liberty at some point in the future.

You have a critical role, Korea does in that vision, as I said when I started without security there isn't prosperity and so we have to see that the deterrent is strong, that our commitment is well understood and that our cooperative relationship is as healthy as it can be and to be healthy it simply has to evolve and change to fit this 21st Century."


regards
seekerof

Originally posted by ktprktpr
I'll be damned. They have psychics in North Korea too!

LMFAO!!!

He is probably right though.

kekekekekekek ^_____^

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!


love it!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Ho-Ho! If its Rumsfeld quotes we're after then here's a few good 'uns, commonly referred to as 'rummyisms', kinda the same as 'bushisms'. Isn't it comforting to know that the bull# America's top politicians talk these days is now just quaintly referred to as 'isms'...?

�There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know.
There are known unkowns. That is to say, there are things we know we don't know.
But, there are also unknown unknowns. These are things we don't know we don't know.�

"Borders are, you know, not always distinct in life."

�Learn to say "I don't know." If used when appropriate, it will be often�

�Once in a while, I'm standing here, doing something and I think, "What in the world am I doing here?" It's a big surprise�

�Oh my goodness gracious, what you can buy off the Internet in terms of overhead photography! A trained ape can know an awful lot of what is going on in this world, just by punching on his mouse for a relatively modest cost!�

�One or two words below are marked "unclear". If anyone can help me with what these may be, please let me know�

"I shouldn't get into this is diplomacy and I don't do diplomacy"

"The dumbest thing anyone could do would be to stand up here and start previewing things that somebody's thinking about or not thinking about or starting to disabuse you of each thing somebody tells you that we're thinking about, because then the first time we don't disabuse you, you'll say 'aha - that's what they're going to do!'

"If I know the answer I'll tell you the answer, and if I don't, I'll just respond, cleverly."

"It's an enormous country - you know, it's bigger than Texas! [unclear word]'s big, I guess - I haven't looked lately."

"If I said yes, that would then suggest that that might be the only place where it might be done which would not be accurate ... necessarily accurate ... it might also not be inaccurate, but I mean ... I'm disinclined to mislead anyone."

"We do have a saying in America: if you're in a hole, stop digging ..... erm, I'm not sure I should have said that."

Reporter: "Mr Secretary, what do you think of the situation in Georgia?"
Rumsfeld: "Who else had their hand up?"

"The construct I would suggest would be, um, what are the benefits - what are the advantages and disadvantages of not acting? And of course, the advantage of not acting - against the moon - would be that no-one could say that you acted. They would say, 'Isn't that good - you didn't do anything against the moon'. The other side of the coin of not acting against the moon, in the event that the moon posed a serious threat, would be that you then suffered a serious loss, and you're sorry after that's over. And in weighing the things, you would have to make a judgement ... or net ... do you think you are acting most responsibly by avoiding the threat that could be characterised - X numbers of people dying, innocent people, and it's that kind of a evaluation one would have to make."

"Near my office is an American flag done in ... origami ... that's one of those words that I haven't mastered yet"

"We do know of certain knowledge that he [Osama Bin Laden] is either in Afghanistan, or in some other country, or dead."

"Well, um, something's neither good nor bad but thinking makes it so, I suppose - as Shakespeare said"

"I believe what I said yesterday ... I don't know what I said, er, but I know what I think, and ... well, I assume it's what I said."

"Oh goodness ... I shouldn't say 'I don't think so', although that's what I think."



If you want to hear some of these gems, and more, in their original form, check here:-
www.bbc.co.uk...

Perhaps Rummy said this too......

"Here is are some "market forces" for you.
We can easily position 3 divisions on the Saudi border and give them 24 hours to cut their price per barrel by 50%!"


regards
seekerof

the sad part is we don't really disagree, i think this is the first time the north has said the right thing in some time. (not to mention the first time bush and the north koreans might have agreed on something)

Originally posted by Seekerof


So, tell me if I've got this straight. Psychopaths are calling Rummy a psychopath?

It takes one to know one... as they say....

It is impossible for Rumsfeld to be illiterate.

Regarding him being a psychopath,

any socialist would say that in defiance.

Originally posted by heelstone
Fairly funny jab from North Korea regarding Rumsfeld there. I can't exactly disagree with them either. For all intents and purposes, the comments are right on the mark.

asia.reuters.com...

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea described Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld as a dictatorial psychopath and a politically illiterate old man for criticizing Pyongyang and predicting its system would collapse.

"His remarks only go to prove that he is just an old man politically illiterate as he cannot measure up the present reality when all the countries are promoting peaceful co-existence, reconciliation and cooperation irrespective of ideologies and beliefs," it said in a long commentary.

"It is not likely at all that he would speak truth as he is obsessed with wantonly harassing peace and security in different parts of the world and igniting wars. His outbursts, therefore, cannot be construed otherwise than a desperate shrill cry of a psychopath on his death bed."

You can't disagree with North Korea? Don't let your hatred for the Bush administration cause you to agree with stupidity. One of the things democrats hate about him is that he is effective, and nowhere near a political illiterate.

Pyongyang's "system" has already collapsed. It does not work. If it weren't for international aide, the people would starve. The are dictatorial and ruthless.

The comments are right on the mark? What are braindead observation. You side yourself with one of the most hideous governments in the world to date by agreeing with their twisted and unsupportable outlook. Keep up the good work.

So NK is really globalist?

Is this what I am to read between the lines of that diatribe from NK?

If so I don't want anything to do with this kind of globalism.

Everyone poor and desparate, unhappy, unfulfilled, entirely under control while a few live like kings?

Why are there people that would support that kind of system?

Is it out of anger or malice that because they do not have what they want that they want most people to have nothing and be nothing and do nothing?

But they would pray' to a few so called 'party elites' as gods on this earth.

I cannot understand how any rational human would want that kind of world.

Rumsfeld was accused of being politically illiterate, which on the world stage, he is.

These North Korean jibes about evil American imperialism are always funny, or they would be if the situation was not escalating with tension.

What I find interesting is how the Iraq Minister For Information was treated as a comic, but the same thing coming from NK is treated with a much more defensive posture by apologists for the Bush admin.

Hmmm.., so what is being politically literate on the world stage really mean?

Does it mean you have to be a career politician?
Does it mean you have to be conversant with every political ideal?
Does it mean you have to be a master of diplomacy?
Does it mean you have to be an expert at the dinner party circuit?

Probably all true, but those are things foreign to many in NK.

thus what it likely means is:

he is on to our game of socialistic world domination so quick mount a person attack upon him so that we can obsfucate the issue.

North Korea Calls Rumsfeld Illiterate Psychopath

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne

Originally posted by heelstone
Fairly funny jab from North Korea regarding Rumsfeld there. I can't exactly disagree with them either. For all intents and purposes, the comments are right on the mark.

asia.reuters.com...

You can't disagree with North Korea? Don't let your hatred for the Bush administration cause you to agree with stupidity. One of the things democrats hate about him is that he is effective, and nowhere near a political illiterate.

Pyongyang's "system" has already collapsed. It does not work. If it weren't for international aide, the people would starve. The are dictatorial and ruthless.

The comments are right on the mark? What are braindead observation. You side yourself with one of the most hideous governments in the world to date by agreeing with their twisted and unsupportable outlook. Keep up the good work.

Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day, and just because heelstone agreed with what NK said doesn't mean he's on their side or agrees with their politics. Talk about an over-reaction.

Originally posted by John Nada
Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day, and just because heelstone agreed with what NK said doesn't mean he's on their side or agrees with their politics. Talk about an over-reaction.

I don't take neither side, but Fumsfeld IS a psychopath, hungry for war and destruction.