Heath Ledger/Brokeback Mountain

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Windy City Times
by Richard Knight, Jr.
12-14-05

- quote from Heath Ledger about the movie -

I think most straight men are coming out of the screenings
feeling swept away by the story and have kind of looked past the
fact that it’s a man-on-man love story. I think it transcends that
with its purity and honesty.

Sorry Heath, but no, most straight guys are not going to the film.
They don't get it, they don't want to get it. Most of America isn't
going to the film. This movie is known as 'that gay cowboy movie'.
It'll be a gay cult classic and a darling of Hollyweird, but that's it.

Now ... no one call me homophobic or anything. I'm not. I have
lesbian friends and one bisexual friend.

I find it interesting that while his 'gay cowboy movie' is coming
out, another Heath Ledger movie is coming out ... Casanova.
That's at the opposite end of the sexual preference category.
Wonder if he did that on purpose so that he could avoid any
gossip wondering with tabloids wondering if he's gay or not.

BTW - he is engaged to his FEMALE Brakeback Mountain co-star
and they are expecting a baby.


[edit on 12/15/2005 by FlyersFan]

Yeah, I don't know too many straight guys that'll be knocking down the door to see this one. My g/f wants to see it but she said we'll just wait 'til it comes out on DVD, but that I HAVE TO watch it then. Anyone want to take bets on how long I stay up that night??

Ledger baffles me. First he screwed it up with Naomi Watts, now he's ...................well nevermind!

Peace

Pfft...all these independent films are about gay cowboys eating pudding...

(Ten points for anybody who knows where that came from.)

I'll take 'South Park' for 10 pts Alex.

answer: What is.... South Park

Not only do I not want to see it, my wife doesn't either, AFAIK.

I know some cowboys. Have some for neighbors. So far, this film hasn't come up in conversation. I'm dying to find a way to bring it up, though.

Frau Dr. just walked through the room and clarified that she would watch it, if it was free, "to see what they had done to it."

Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
she would watch it, if it was free,

Naaaaah. I wouldn't waste my time.
I have better things to do ... even
rearranging my sock drawer is better.

Sorry again to Heath Ledger, but I think
you are suffering from Hyper-reality.
This film will bomb with all except the
gay community and Hollywierd.

Straight men aren't going to love it.
They won't even be bothered to watch it.


[edit on 12/16/2005 by FlyersFan]

The term "Brokeback" sounds very appropriate for this movie.

Why is it that out-there movies like this garner all the attention when it comes to the Oscars? The movie could be pure crap but as long as it's fringe and pushes peoples' buttons it's Oscar worthy.

Peace

[edit on 16-12-2005 by Dr Love]

Yes Dr. Love. The name of the movie
caught my attention as well. It sounds
notoriously close to a certain sex act
performed by homosexuals as well as
the fact that it sounds kinda' like what
is going to happen to the financial
backers of this film.

Pity really, Heath Ledger can be fantastic. If you haven't seen "Two Hands", do so before you flame me. Excellent aussie underworld crime flick, with enough funny bits to be interesting.
'You like shotguns?'
'Yeah shotties are good mate.'

Originally posted by Dr Love
The term "Brokeback" sounds very appropriate for this movie.

I think it came down to that title or "Homosexual Cowboy Sheepherders". The latter title wasn't "artsy" enough for the L.A. crowd. That's another disgusting part of the movie. Any real cowboy would never mess with sheep. So these guys are really "sheepboys".

Yeah, America isn't running to the theatre to see this, but I pulled the stats for last weekend and it was still in the top ten. I'm not sure what this cost to make, but they have pulled in $22 million over the 5 weeks. Somebody is watching the movie, and I know I'll watch it when it hits DVD, but I just don't go to theatres.

Sure it's not a genre for everyone, but it's an important genre to some people.
I can't count the times I've watch straight couples make out on the screen, and I look forward to watching the guys get it on. It'll be nice to watch a gay themed movie that's a love story and not some tradgety about hustlers or AIDS victims, or some sleazy porn with no story line.

If that's not your cup of tea, vote with your wallet and buy a ticket to another movie.
You'll enjoy your evening so much more..........

www.the-movie-times.com...

[edit on 16/1/2006 by anxietydisorder]

Apparently it's up for some Golden Globes.
We'll find out tonight if it wins.
Hollyweird loves this kind of crap.
I'm sure it will do well with them, even if
America rejects it .

MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT with the movie - the two guys
discuss running away together. They are shown as
sympathetic and heroic ... all this while they are talking
about abandoning their children and families... all the
while they are lieing to them.

Some freak'n heros. UGH.

Everyone complaining about this movie, read the short story by Ann Proulx first. I read it last year and it blew me away, the pure emotion of it. If you aren't going to watch the movie but your still going to diss it, please take 30 mins to read the story. It's not what you think.

I think Big Top Pee Wee grossed more back in the day. Wow, there's one to hang your hat on.

Originally posted by Yossarian
If you aren't going to watch the movie but your still going to diss it, please take 30 mins to read the story. It's not what you think.

How much different could it be? I think I'd rather read the obits.

Peace

Originally posted by FlyersFan
MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT with the movie - the two guys
discuss running away together. They are shown as
sympathetic and heroic ... all this while they are talking
about abandoning their children and families... all the
while they are lieing to them.

Some freak'n heros. UGH.

That's the kind of attitude that makes so many people who know they are gay try to "pretend" to have a "normal" life.

If it weren't for the stigma that society puts on homosexuality, there would NEVER be any discussions between two guys about abondoning their families and running away together - they would have already been together to begin with.

When people know what their hearts want, and try to do what society expects instead, you're gonna end up with a few broken homes - becuase some people just can't keep pretending to be "normal" (whatever the hell 'normal' means)

Besides, straight people abandon each other all the time for other "mates", so why ain't nobody's panties all in-a-wad about that?

"UGH" indeed.

[edit on 1/17/06 by paulthefourth]

Originally posted by paulthefourth
straight people abandon each other all the time for other "mates"

That's just as distressing to me. That's just as unentertaining.
And if there was a movie that had 'straight' people in adultery
discussing how to abandon their children and families ... I
wouldn't go see that either. It's all vile.

so why ain't nobody's panties all in-a-wad about that?

'Panties in a wad'. That's just so ...

You know...just a few weeks ago, I saw an episode of South Park, where the Indie Films came to town...and all the movies were about gay cowboys eating pudding...

Are they eating pudding in this flick?

Hmm...don't see myself rushing to the theaters to see this one.... If I want to see dudes get it on...I'll go down to the Keys, so at least I can go to some nice beaches, eat some good seafood, etc.

If it weren't for the stigma that society puts on homosexuality, there would NEVER be any discussions between two guys about abondoning their families and running away together - they would have already been together to begin with.

I'd think we're pretty far past this point by this time... The "social stigma" era is gone for the most part....

[edit on 20-1-2006 by Gazrok]

This is a gay bashing thread under the guise of a movie thread!

#1 Movie in America

Film Surges Following Golden Globe Wins;
International Boxoffice Also Off to Chart-Top Start as Film Garners 9 BAFTA Award Nominations

NEW YORK, Jan. 19 /PRNewswire/ -- Demonstrating its clear-cut filmgoer appeal worldwide, Focus Features' "Brokeback Mountain" has ascended to the top of the national domestic boxoffice, and is also off to a chart-topping start in its first overseas engagements in the U.K. and France. The breakout business follows the film's 4 Golden Globe Award wins earlier this week (more than any other film) and 9 BAFTA Award nominations (including Best Film) earlier today.

Sounds like it's doing all right. I won't see it at the theaters because I don't go to theaters, but I'll definitely see it. Looks like a great love story.

ABC News

LOS ANGELES Dec 29, 2005 — Who's afraid of a couple of gay cowboys? Not moviegoers, who helped "Brokeback Mountain" post the highest per-screen average over the film-flush holiday weekend.

The Ang Lee film, which follows the 20-year forbidden romance between two roughneck ranch hands, earned $13,599 per theater, compared with $9,305 for weekend winner "King Kong" and $8,225 for "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe."

[edit on 20-1-2006 by Benevolent Heretic]

Originally posted by FlyersFan

I find it interesting that while his 'gay cowboy movie' is coming
out, another Heath Ledger movie is coming out ... Casanova.
That's at the opposite end of the sexual preference category.
Wonder if he did that on purpose so that he could avoid any
gossip wondering with tabloids wondering if he's gay or not.

Well who knows, although does it matter in this day and age? Even Brandon Routh, the guy who's the new Superman is gay. Although i don't think that'll stop people turning out to see America's superhero 'fighting injustice'. The fact he's doing something different as Casanova, which is about a philandering man shows that he's an actor. A good actor will opt to try any part regardless of preconceived ideas or prejudices.

I at least applaud Jake Gyllenhaal (very good in Donnie Darko & Jarhead) & Heath Ledger for trying these roles out, it shows they're serious about their line of work. Which is refreshing considering many actors aren't good and probably only in it for the fame and fortune.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT with the movie - the two guys
discuss running away together. They are shown as
sympathetic and heroic ... all this while they are talking
about abandoning their children and families... all the
while they are lieing to them.

Some freak'n heros. UGH.

I don't think they're trying to portray them as 'heroes'. Just people who are trying to come to terms with themselves. Anyway as someone pointed out, it's no different if you had a straight couple doing the same. Many films have straight people doing it. Just two people who have feelings for eachother and decide to act on it. Maybe it's selfish but is it fair on their spouses or children if they have to lie to them, whilst being uhappy?

Even though i've given a positive glint on this films and its 'stars'. I'm not going to see it. It's not my kind of thing. Kudos to the actors who did it.

Originally posted by Flyboy211
Well who knows, although does it matter in this day and age? Even Brandon Routh, the guy who's the new Superman is gay.

No way dude. The studios wouldn't risk the bad publicity and the backlash and hire an openly gay man to play Superman. I'm sure that's just another rumor.

And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being gay, so save it.

Peace