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Originally posted by worldwatcher
And not only are we losing brave Americans and killing innocent civilians, now we're starting to lose the very rights that those guys are dying to defend for us. I rather anyday that an American dies on American soil than in a foreign land.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
I don't think that as an American I should have my credit checked, my background searched, etc, etc, because of my non criminal affiliations.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
btw grady, I understand and know, but why should I hide, if I live in Free Country? This is the United States of America right? I shouldn't have to fear my government.
Originally posted by msnevil
Your Government has spied on you for years. Yawn, old News.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
I wish people would read before commenting. If you took the time to read the article or even the paragraph, you would see that number of 1500 is relating to incidents not people. Please read the full 3 pages of the article before formulating an opinion and making a comment.
The database includes three categories of incidents: The first are actual, seemingly valid potential terrorism tip-offs. The second category of incidents are anti-war and anti-military protests by civilians. The third are security incidents with only the most tentative terrorism connection.
The second category of "incidents" -- those based on surveillance of anti-war and anti-nuclear groups, as well as students and others protesters -- should be disturbing to any Americans who care about civil liberties in this age of counter-terrorism because they indicate that military intelligence and local law enforcement agencies are routinely watching lawful protests.
But it is the third category of incidents that is the most numerous, the most revealing and the most corrosive. The hyper vigilant homeland security types probably wouldn't be monitoring the web sites, intercepting the Emails, and sending undercover agents into meetings of lawful and peaceful Americans if they had not accumulated this mass of self-perpetuating "threat" reporting that does little more than pad a database to suggest domestic dangers by sheer repetition.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
We have open borders to the North and South and every year the Immigrant population both legal and mainly illegal continues to rapidly grow. But our government doesn't see that..
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
The current conditions require special measures, but frankly, and I've been around for a while now, I think that I have all the freedom that I've always had.