Yeah pretty funny how that fire engine in the picture that weighs in at around 49,000 lbs, with all that weight concentrated on only 6 wheels, isn’t tearing it up either, eh?

Guess it is a pretty tough lawn, defiantly capable of supporting a belly slide from the flat, wide, smooth surface of a 757.

This has been cover to death in the Pentagon thread, did you check in there?

So what's the answer?
People saw the plane hit the "lawn" but why wasn't there any damage to it?

This has been cover to death in the Pentagon thread, did you check in there?

what this webite? oops sorry if it's been covered, i just thought it was a bit of an alternative and querky view of the subject

How the powers at be can get away with it, is beyond me

Originally posted by jupiter869
So what's the answer?
People saw the plane hit the "lawn" but why wasn't there any damage to it?

The people who saw it hit the lawn were obviously government officials pretending to be the guy from down the street

But that lawn is in rather good shape when its all said and done.

Originally posted by iamian
what this webite? oops sorry if it's been covered, i just thought it was a bit of an alternative and querky view of the subject

How the powers at be can get away with it, is beyond me

Well not that website specifically, but the subject of why the lawn was not more damaged was in the pentagon thread more then one time.

Originally posted by jupiter869
So what's the answer?
People saw the plane hit the "lawn" but why wasn't there any damage to it?

An airplane is smooth on the bottom and designed to be able to belly slide if the gears fail. The weight is dispersed over a wider area then that truck, by way of example, so there is most likely less pounds per inch in contact then you have on that truck. The truck has all its weight including the water and chemicals it holds concentrated into an area the width of its tires and it’s not even making large ruts in the grass.

Obviously the damage to the grass is going to depend on how soft the dirt below it is. That is why you can run a lawn tractor over your yard on a normal day and not make ruts, but try it after it rains out and you will have a muddy mess. If you look at the pictures from later in the day you will see that as the water from the fire trucks absorbs into the ground, it softens and you have muddy ruts…

So with that in mind I would have to guess that the dirt around the pentagon is both very dry and packed down pretty hard, most likely from all the construction equipment that had been running all over it before the incident. The grass was then literally stuck between a rock and a hard place, it would provide some lubrication to the aircraft passing over it, and would have just ended up being matted down flat.

Originally posted by defcon5
Obviously the damage to the grass is going to depend on how soft the dirt below it is. That is why you can run a lawn tractor over your yard on a normal day and not make ruts, but try it after it rains out and you will have a muddy mess. If you look at the pictures from later in the day you will see that as the water from the fire trucks absorbs into the ground, it softens and you have muddy ruts…

So with that in mind I would have to guess that the dirt around the pentagon is both very dry and packed down pretty hard, most likely from all the construction equipment that had been running all over it before the incident. The grass was then literally stuck between a rock and a hard place, it would provide some lubrication to the aircraft passing over it, and would have just ended up being matted down flat.

reinforced grass? its an interesting theory, i cant see dirt no matter how matted down it is not being disturbed in some way by a Boeing 757,

Regardless of there being a plane or not, there was a dramatic fireball and substantial damage was sustained, so the lawn not being burnt is effectively a mystery regardless of the cause. It really does not prove anything one way or another.

Originally posted by AgentSmith

Regardless of there being a plane or not, there was a dramatic fireball and substantial damage was sustained, so the lawn not being burnt is effectively a mystery regardless of the cause. It really does not prove anything one way or another.

The explosion would have followed the forward momentum of the fuel feeding it. It would have started once the wings hit the wall and proceeded forward and, since heat climbs, upward. So the scorching from the initial fireball would mostly be inside the building and up the fascia.

Originally posted by iamian

Where's the Plane?

This was all a lead in to making your own Pentagon thread, that is what I expected. Go to the proper thread, read he 120 or so pages, then ask this in there…

I’ll not contribute to another thread to rehash this crap over again for every new guy out there.


BYE-BYE!!


[edit on 12/11/2005 by defcon5]

Where is the plane?
Well it obviously went through one of those windows

Originally posted by defcon5
This was all a lead in to making your own Pentagon thread, that is what I expected. Go to the proper thread, read he 120 or so pages, then ask this in there…

I’ll not contribute to another thread to rehash this crap over again for every new guy out there.

BYE-BYE!!
[edit on 12/11/2005 by defcon5]

I'm sorry defcon5, i've obviously caused you an itch, i didn't mean too,
but i still dont believe a plane hit the Pentagon.

Take it easy m8 All the best... ian

Discussed in other threads, folks. Please use one of those instead of starting new ones.

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