Originally posted by Lysergic
Incapable of sinning, how so?
Honestly, I don't know how it could be without you loosing the "Self", so you can't do what you please, or more like You won't do what you
I mean the world feels so helpless sometimes and you have to think where is God in all of this, this must be the begining of the end...
We've Been WAITING for SO LONG!
[edit on 20-10-2005 by Lysergic]
We will be incapable of sinning because we will be changed:
1 Corinthians 15:35-58
35 ¶ But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37 and that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
38 but God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differeth from another star in
42 ¶ So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption:
43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power:
44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; Gen. 2.7 the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 ¶ Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall
be changed. 1 Thes. 4.15-17
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying
that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. Is. 25.8
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? Hos. 13.14
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58 ¶ Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye steadfast, unmovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labor is
not in vain in the Lord.
We won't lose our "self" because we really don't know who we are yet.
Adam and Eve were created perfect. No sin in them. If they would believe and obey what God said they could become what God intended for them to
become. They didn't keep to God's rules, they disobeyed and sin entered them and their existance. This sin problem from then on has been passed
down to all people in our "genetics".
They entered the PRISON of sin. When someone goes to prison they are limited in what they can do. Without freedom they cannot become all they can
be. And you are seperated from others. In the case of sin it caused us to be seperated from God and limited us from God's presence and limted what
we can do. Most people have it backwards they believe living without God is freedom and living with God is prison, when it actuality the exact
opposite is true. When you are imprisoned in sin that's what you do, sin, because that's all you know and are limited in true growth, and you
cannot get as close to God as He desires, and as close as we would want if we knew everything He knows.
If someone steals he or she could get a couple of years in prison. If you muder your wife and dump her body in a bay you could get life in prison
and/or the death penalty. Sin has given mankind the death penalty. That's the way it is:
Ezekiel 18:20-The soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Romans 6:23-For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (KJV)
So God sent Jesus and through faith in His completed work our sin is forgiven and we are let out of the sin prison. Now we can be free to be who God
intended us to be. It doesn't happen all at once. Acceptance of Christ and forgiveness of our sin is the 1st installment from God. As we live our
life He makes more installments to us and we grow up in the knowledge of who He is and who we can become. The final installment will come when He
returns for us and we are changed so that we cannot sin and we cannot suffer from any corruption. Like 1st Corinthians says.
Even then it won't stop because for all eternity we will be working for God, the best employer anyone could have. For all eterntiy we will be
involved in construction throughout the universe(and whatever else He has in store for us) instead of destruction. We will never grow old and suffer
the troubles of aging. We will never run out of days to live. We won't be on a countdown to death, we will be on a count-up to life
As far as waiting for so long, to us it seems like it, because we are racing toward physical death.
But, 2 Peter 3:8–9 reads:
‘But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not
slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.’
In God's sight Jesus has only been gone 2 days.
[edit on 21-10-2005 by dbrandt]