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Originally posted by NWguy83
You wouldn't need stealth for a hypersonic aircraft. Mach 10-15 at 100,000 ft, what could possibly get it?
USAF's new scramjet engine
Originally posted by intelgurl
It's a generator that sends a beam of microwaves upstream into the Mach 6 flow, ripping apart the gas ahead of the model so that it is flying through a plasma--a boiling mix of positive ions and electrons--rather than ordinary gas.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
Second, the US wants to be able to use this aircraft as a first strike platform, and stealth ability gives it a huge advantage in such a role, for example, a few of these things could be used to take out communications and comand centers in the initial stages of a nuclear first strike. That might creat a window for the strategic missles to get to target before the enemy even knew they were being attacked.
Originally posted by kilcoo316
Ugghhh - I don't like that idea!!!
As for detection of the ionisation, well, if the method of ionisation is pretty much using brute heat, a IRST will detect it miles away. But then again, with the speed it will be travelling, is miles away far enough away? Mach 10 is roughly 6,800 mph @ 30,000, at 100,000 ft its around 6,750 mph. So even with an IRST detection range of 100 miles, if the aircraft is coming directly towards you, you still only have about 50-55 seconds to react!! (until it's past you).
Originally posted by American Mad Man
You must consider that the heat generated by ionisation may in fact be cooler then the heat that would be generated by the aircraft simply flying through normal air. The SR-71 would heat up to 900 degrees F on the airframe, and the engines would heat up to 3200 degrees. If the air in front of the plane is heated up before the aircraft flies through it, the airframe of the aircraft it's self would actually be cooler because there would be less resistance by the air, and thus less friction.
So in a sense it would act as an indirect active stealth system.
However, like you said, the speed of the aircraft is more then able to make up for any detection that would occur. In addition, the hypersonic stealth aircraft would detect any enemies before it was detected it's self via radar, and thus could simply turn a degree or two and avoid the enemy aircraft.
Originally posted by FredT
Im no areodynamic expert either, but unless you are planning on a ballistic track, the plane will have to generate some kind of lift to stay in the air in level flight. Thats why alot of the concept planes for this type of speed are lifting bodies.
Edit: SPelling
[edit on 10/17/05 by FredT]
The Russian aircraft industry has developed and will soon start producing stealth aircraft which will radically differ from existing U.S. models. The Russian version uses plasma screens to cushion and disperse radar waves, the Novye Izvestia daily reports.
The newspaper quoted Anatoly Koroteyev, the head of the Keddysh Research Center as saying that the plasma screen technology can be used on any vehicle — from automobiles to combat aircraft. However, it is most effective at high altitudes and thus is best used by the air force.
Koroteyev said that the new technology employs a different physical principle than the one currently used by existing U.S. stealth aircraft — the F-117 and B-2. Instead of reflecting the radar wave the Russian technology completely disperses it by means of a plasma screen created by a mobile plasma generator.
The generator is small and light. The device emits powerful electron beams that ionize the air around the aircraft effectively creating a plasma cloud around it.
The head of the Russian research institute said that initially the plasma generator disrupted the work of on-board electronic systems and prevented radio communication with ground control, but the problems have been solved and the system has already passed tests set by a Russian governmental commission.
Koroteyev added that the new technology can be used on any aircraft, including older models and that it is radically cheaper than the technology employed by U.S. stealth planes while being just as effective, if not more so. He said that the aircraft equipped with the Russian system will also be far superior to U.S. models in their flight and combat capabilities — as the use of the plasma screen makes it unnecessary to alter the shape of the aircraft.
The newspaper writes that similar research is being conducted in the U.S., but the Russian version is so far the only plasma screen technology in the world.
Originally posted by kilcoo316
I put this in the sticky thread at the top of the board, but in-case its missed...
So there it is, the same group of scientists (ITAE) who in 1999 stated via ITAR-TASS news agency that they had a 100kg plasma stealth unit in it's 3rd generation, 4 years later tell Bill Sweetman of Janes Defense Weekly the system was problematic due to the dissipation of the plasma field was too rapid for a fast flying fighter aircraft.
Originally posted by kilcoo316
AMM - that news story was posted online today...
I did state that - but I think it was in the sticky thread I stated it, followed by the question is this a report on old news, or a new development?
Either its a slow news day, and a Russian newspaper is filling space with old material, or there has been a step forward. But, I suppose, why would you unveil the fact its almost at operational status?
Originally posted by kilcoo316
I disagree to an extent ghost, they will have to get the plane into the air off a conventional run-way (won't they? would they really consider launcher vehicles for every flight or vertical launches? ).