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Originally posted by The Parallelogram
I have heard more coherent and reasonable diatribes from drug-addicted mentally ill homeless folk ranting on street corners in Manhattan.
posted by GradyPhilpott
Farrakhan has an important lesson for us all. Never let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
He could stir up alot of things in this country.
Maybe even a civil war......
It is being reported that homes in the Bywater section of New Orleans, the 9th Ward,flooded because they (some government entity) used too much explosive to dynamite part of the levee after the first section broke - they did this to prevent Uptown (the rich part of town) from being inundated with water from the Lake. Who is responsible for flooding so many homes-Katrina, or our government?
www.youthinkwhat.com...
Our house is 6 blocks from the lower 9th ward that you all may have heard about on TV as one of the hardest hit neighborhoods - where one of the levy breaks occurred. That entire neighborhood is completely under water. Unfortunately, we have learned that the reason our part of the neighborhood flooded was not due to the hurricane, but rather to a misguided effort on the part of our government. Fearing that the flood waters would invade Uptown New Orleans (the wealthy, white part of town), they dynamited another hole in the levy on our side to let flood waters in there and keeping them away from Uptown. Apparently they over did it with the dynamite.
getyouracton.com...
Divers inspecting the ruptured levee walls
surrounding New Orleans found something that piqued their interest:
Burn marks on underwater debris chunks from the broken levee wall! One
diver, a member of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, saw the burn
marks and knew immediately what caused them. When he surfaced and
showed the evidence to his superior, the on-site Coordinator for FEMA
stepped-in and said "You are not here to conduct an investigation as to
why this rupture occurred, but only to determine how best to close it."
www.whale.to...
10:57 Raw transcript of comments by NOLA evacuee : "The 17th street levee was bombed by the Army Corps of Engineers to save the more valuable real estate in the city... to keep the French Quarter protected, the ninth ward was sacrificed... people are afraid to speak out... everyone who was near there heard the bombings... they bombed seven times. That’s why they didn’t fix the levees... 20 feet of water. Gators. People dying in water. They let the parishes go, not the city center
www.indymedia.ie...
Who were these "military agents" that were killed by the police near the 17th Street Canal breeched levy and what were they doing there? Why did the New Orleans police find it necessary to shoot and kill 5 or 6 of them? No one is saying anything and it appears that the news story has now been swept under the rug.
www.envirosagainstwar.org...
The Great New Orleans Land Grab:
The 17th Street Canal Levy Was Breeched on
"Mayor Nagin told us there was a 25-foot crater under the levee," Farrakhan explained, before cautioning that the New Orleans Democrat "didn't say there was a bomb. He just said there was a crater."
Farrakhan then added: "I say they blew it [up]."
www.talkshowamerica.com...
This is your first post and thats all you have to say about this subject?
Maybe you should look him up on the internet but I have a strange feeling that you DO know him.
On October 24, 1989, at the J.W. Marriott Hotel in Washington, DC., Louis Farrakhan stated that he had a vision of being abducted in 1985 by an invisible pilot in a UFO and carried up on a beam of light to a "human built planet" known as the "Mother Wheel." There the voice of Elijah Muhammad informed him that the president and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, under the direction of Gen. Colin Powell, were planning a war, which Farrakhan said he later came to realize was "a war against the black people of America, the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan." "I saw a city in the sky," Farrakhan said, after which the UFO "brought me back to Earth and dropped me off near Washington; over to Tyson Corners and Fifth Street I think...to make The Announcement."
You have voted Ycon for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have one more vote left for this month.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Farrakhan has an important lesson for us all. Never let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
The 17th street levee was bombed by the Army Corps of Engineers to save the more valuable real estate in the city... to keep the French Quarter protected, the ninth ward was sacrificed...
www.indymedia.ie...
Originally posted by subz
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Farrakhan has an important lesson for us all. Never let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
That's not a very enlightened position to take, especially not when you are a contributing member of a conspiracy board. Im not saying that all Farrakhan's theories are accurate, but allowing for the possibility some may be true is a much better position to take than a blanket resistance to them. If you have evidence that proves his theories are inaccurate then I apologize, but unless you do you cannot dismiss them and still be denying ignorance. An open mind is much more conducive to uncovering the truth than a closed one.
[edit on 13/10/05 by subz]
Originally posted by ChemicalLaser
Oh come on. I think a healthy sense of scepticism and credulity is well founded when it comes to Farrakhan. How about *you* name one instance where one of his conspiracy theories has some foundation in reality - you know, some evidence of credibility?
Originally posted by GradyPhilpot
He believes that Hitler was a great man, that a "mothership" interfered with US plans to declare war on Libya, that the government was behind 9/11
Originally posted by ChemicalLaser
While an open mind is one thing (even a stopped clock is right twice a day), it is time to say enough is enough when it comes to this guy. He's a crackpot and his ravings should be met with a resounding silence until he has something other than rumour and wild speculation to back up his claims.
Originally posted by subz
I agree, you do need a healthy degree of scepticism, but that doesn't just stop with Farrakhan. You ask me to name a conspiracy theory that has some foundation in reality:
Originally posted by GradyPhilpot
He believes that Hitler was a great man, that a "mothership" interfered with US plans to declare war on Libya, that the government was behind 9/11
75% of ATS members who took part in this poll agree with that. Link
I have an open mind on his other theories, and some I would be sceptical of but I am damn sure I wont dismiss them outright because I don't have evidence to say otherwise. That would be embracing ignorance.
Why would you say that? If he is wrong, how does it affect you? Are you being insinuated into his conspiracy theory? If not, then why do you care if he is spouting incorrect theories?
Originally posted by subz
I have an open mind on his other theories, and some I would be sceptical of but I am damn sure I wont dismiss them outright because I don't have evidence to say otherwise. That would be embracing ignorance.
Why would you say that? If he is wrong, how does it affect you? Are you being insinuated into his conspiracy theory? If not, then why do you care if he is spouting incorrect theories? He maybe a crackpot, and he is definitely a racist, but that shouldn't change his theories. Theories, I may add, that are not entirely his own. Why should the theories suffer because some racist happens to agree with them?