National ID for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do you guys (and gals) think about this.

www.yowusa.com...

A national ID card is not a new idea. Despite perestroika, Russia still uses Soviet-era Government-issued Prospekas (internal passports) in Moscow and St. Petersburg to identify citizens authorized to live in those cities. In America, we have the Social Security Card. Try opening a bank account or getting a job without one.

What makes the national ID card proposed by Oracle CEO Larry Ellison (who first proposed the national ID card scheme) different, is that it will use digital automation via the power of the Internet. This will make it a more powerful control mechanism than a Russian Prospeka or an American Social Security Card and likewise, far more corruptible and subject to abuse.

Another one of are freedoms drifting away from our grasp.

What do you guys think?



[Edited on 5-9-2003 by omega1]

National ID card. I don't need an ID card. I know who I am...do you know who you are?


You all know the old joke about us here in KY? Seems a cop pulled over an old guy on the interstate and ask if he had any ID. The old guy responded.."bout what?"

Anyway, here's a little bit more on ID cards.

In the UK..
www.privacyinternational.org...


The DOT
www.time.com...

It wouldn't be a national ID card � not really. The Department of Transportation, acting on instructions from Congress, has begun work with states to develop electronically smarter drivers' licenses that can be checked for validity across the country, and that have more than just than that always-awful picture � like a fingerprint or retinal-scan imprint � to match the card to its holder.

As well as Popular Science and their take...





www.popsci.com...

More than 30 countries, from Italy to Malaysia, have already introduced "smart" ID cards. If you're eventually issued a national card, it will likely incorporate several of the technologies shown here, combined to make the card readable by both high- and low-tech devices.

Scary stuff.

That's just the beginning ....

Soon we'll get taged like animals.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

[Edited on 5-9-2003 by Salem]

I'm geussing they'll take effect by 2010 for sure (if we make it that long)...
In the public school system, stuents are listed as numbers, they don't have names.

It goes something like this on a class progres report:

317896012 A
789123589 A
639616796 C
-57981589 B
571067175 A

They don't even call your name in roll...
You here your name at graduation and in the halls, not in class.
Damn socialists!!
- Tassadar

[Edited on 5-9-2003 by Tassadar]

Originally posted by Tassadar
I'm geussing they'll take effect by 2010 for sure (if we make it that long)...
In the public school system, stuents are listed as numbers, they don't have names.

It goes something like this on a class progres report:

317896012 A
789123589 A
639616796 C
-57981589 B
571067175 A

They don't even call your name in roll...
You here your name at graduation and in the halls, not in class.
Damn socialists!!
- Tassadar

[Edited on 5-9-2003 by Tassadar]

I'm lucky that it's not like that where I live ... yet.

What the heck do you think your Social Security, and Drivers License cards are???

And yes, that info is already in electronic databases...so I really don't see the big difference...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not crazy about it...but it isn't a sign of the apocolypse either....

[Edited on 5-9-2003 by Gazrok]

Times are bad and the world is corupted. He will be here soon.

Your pahpahs pleees!!!

Cool I want a national ID!!! I hope they can put all the info on a chip. And I hope they can implant it in my brain. Maybe John Ashcroft can do it personally. Maybe it'll transmit an electric shock straight to my testicles whenever I start thinking unpatriotic thoughts!!! Zzwapp!! Sweet, I can't wait!!!!

[Edited on 9/5/2003 by Flinx]

Originally posted by Flinx
Cool I want a national ID!!! I hope they can put all the info on a chip. And I hope they can implant it in my brain. Maybe John Ashcroft can do it personally. Maybe it'll transmit an electric shock straight to my testicles whenever I start thinking unpatriotic thoughts!!! Zzwapp!! Sweet, I can't wait!!!!

[Edited on 9/5/2003 by Flinx]

Yeah it would be cool if my chip would malfunction like Cartman's and let me shoot lightning from my hands.

yea that would be cool.

...As if Social Security Cards aren't enough for them any more...

The %$@#% are always looking for more ways to control us.

I live in Germany and over here you have to have an ID when your 16 and older, if you don't you can go to jail for it. Now these Idiots even think abou thumbprints in the ID. I registered my ID yesterday because I'm almost 16 but didn't have to give my thumbprint. The new thumbprint law will be active next year...

live in Germany and over here you have to have an ID when your 16 and older, if you don't you can go to jail for it. Now these Idiots even think abou thumbprints in the ID. I registered my ID yesterday because I'm almost 16 but didn't have to give my thumbprint. The new thumbprint law will be active next year...

Soon this will be the reality for not just Germany. This is the warning of what will happen in the near future.