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reply posted on 5-9-2003 @ 01:58 PM by Seekerof
Originally posted by SectorGaza
Originally posted by Seekerof
Five words of wisdom........
RAPTOR....BVR....in your azz!
(and I hated to say that too...I love Sukhoi's)

regards
seekerof

[Edited on 5-9-2003 by Seekerof]



MIG-31....BVR....IN YUOR ASS




Yep....in your dreams buddy! Bet on it.
Not going to happen!!
F-22 Raptor will have BETTER avionics by far. The TVC is controlled by a supercomputer, sensor fusion, stealth, a WHOLE LOT of pure computing power, FAR superior jamming and FAR greater manoever ability. You won't even detect it or see it on the radar till 8-10 km.... "splash one" material! The Mig-31, and company, including the SU-30MKI, SU-27, SU-35/37, SU-47, etc., are decades behind in systems and even further in LO. The RUssians claim these aircraft are 4th Gen but in truth they, accounting for all aspects, they are equal and actually 3rd Gen.
SO you end up with 3rd Gen going against 5th Gen...right.....LOL
No other aircraft comes close to the situational awareness, stealth, computing power, or performance with full weapons load of the F-22 Raptor. Russia's 1.42? Right....lack of moneyto continue and produce, lacks large numbers of trained pilots....supply (fuel/parts/etc.). Dreams verses reality.
Try this:
www.occdsb.on.ca...

Got the answers for that that Mig though, till the F-22 comes forth....F-15K/F-16 BLK60 series, F/A-18E/F series, etc....hell, could probably whoop it with a F-14D with antic Pheonix system.



regards
seekerof



reply posted on 5-9-2003 @ 02:18 PM by SectorGaza
Originally posted by Seekerof



Yep....in your dreams buddy! Bet on it.
Not going to happen!!
F-22 Raptor will have BETTER avionics by far. The TVC is controlled by a supercomputer, sensor fusion, stealth, a WHOLE LOT of pure computing power, FAR superior jamming and FAR greater manoever ability. You won't even detect it or see it on the radar till 8-10 km.... "splash one" material! The Mig-31, and company, including the SU-30MKI, SU-27, SU-35/37, SU-47, etc., are decades behind in systems and even further in LO. The RUssians claim these aircraft are 4th Gen but in truth they, accounting for all aspects, they are equal and actually 3rd Gen.
SO you end up with 3rd Gen going against 5th Gen...right.....LOL
No other aircraft comes close to the situational awareness, stealth, computing power, or performance with full weapons load of the F-22 Raptor. Russia's 1.42? Right....lack of moneyto continue and produce, lacks large numbers of trained pilots....supply (fuel/parts/etc.). Dreams verses reality.
Try this:
www.occdsb.on.ca...

Got the answers for that that Mig though, till the F-22 comes forth....F-15K/F-16 BLK60 series, F/A-18E/F series, etc....hell, could probably whoop it with a F-14D with antic Pheonix system.



regards
seekerof




you are going a little too far with this OMGOMG LOLOLZ F22 IS INVICIBAL YUOR COMMY PLAEN WONT SEE IT AHAHAHAAAA.. anyways

how about a combo of mig-31 working in the mode of informational interchange, and controlling a front line of 800-1000 km long with su-30+ and mig-29smt against raptors and f16?
it can even shot down couple of nato sattelites

MiG-31 enable it to perform functions of a long-range radar aircraft for MiG-29smt, Su-27, Su-30+. the MIG-31, through its high speed and climb-rate and long combat- and radar/weapons range would be the first line of defence against incoming enemy cruise missiles and strike aircraft - being supplemented by the Sukhoi and mig29 to take over at medium range with its superior agility and medium range missiles(R-27 and R-77)- with the MIG-29smt as the last step in the system designed entirely for close-range combat through super manouevrability and short range combat systems(EOS) and missiles(R-60 and R-73).

with A-50 AWACS and a Midas Tanker no f-500 will pass through it .
Operating in groups of 4 the MIG-31 will be integrated into a complete airdefence system where the lead aircraft is linked up to the AK-RLDN automatic ground based guidance network covering an area of 900 km in diameter - receive data from this or from the A-50 "Mainstay" AWACS aircraft through the APD-518 digital data link - then passing on threat data and assigning targets to wingmen. The operational range of the MIG-31 can be further expanded by inflight refuelling from an Ilyushin IL-7 "Midas" tanker aircraft and say good bye to your f22/35/42/65.






[Edited on 5-9-2003 by SectorGaza]


reply posted on 8-9-2003 @ 01:26 PM by Seekerof
Prove it wrong Uni/Fulcrum!
Allow me to help you lose a little sleep at night, eh?

"JAS-39 vs. M-2000-5 vs. F-16 BLK52 vs. Mig-29SMT-2"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"Russia will be getting Mig-31M! Mig-29SMT! and S-400"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"F-22 and Su-30 MKI"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"Please tell me, why you down play the F-22 capabilities?"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"Myths and facts about the F-22 Raptor"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"Why must the Raptor crush the Su-35 at manueverability"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"Top 10 dog fighters (assuming cannon as only armament)
pub137.ezboard.com...

"Interesting read on the F-22...to all the bashers"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"True facts about the F/A-22"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"F-22 vs. Mig-21"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"Su-37 vs. F-22"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"F-35A vs. Su-30MKI"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"Comparision of the Fighters"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"F-15C vs. Su-37"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"F-22 vs. Eurofighter in close combat"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"Superiority of Su-30MKI over Su-30MKI and F-15E"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"AESA and PESA (Radars)"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"Mig-29, World's BEst Fighter?"
pub137.ezboard.com...

"What planes will become the competitor of the F/A-22"
pub137.ezboard.com...


IF you need me to pull from the site that you "sent" me....let me know....they have quite a few topics describing an outcome virtually the same as the above topics. Enjoy......be sure to drink plenty of water and sleeping pills....
ANything you need to know will and can be found in the links I provided...some topics may not be titled "F-22" but they have the F-22 in content...bet on it...worth the read and the obvious eye-opener!

regards
seekerof

[Edited on 8-9-2003 by Seekerof]
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