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Topic started on 1-9-2005 @ 01:42 PM by junglejake
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Weavers School in Wellingborough, Northamptonshire will be allowing students to swear at the teacher, but only 5 times per lesson. A running tally
will be on the board of how many times each student says the f-word at the teacher. If the student swears over 5 times, they will be spoken to after
class. Students who do not swear at the teacher will be rewarded with "praise cards" mailed to their parents.
www.dailymail.co.uk
A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long as they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of how
many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If a class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the lesson.
The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs yesterday. They warned it
would backfire.
Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
This school has decided to reward good behavior instead of punishing bad behavior. The praise cards will be sent out for doing something so simple as
showing up for class on time. What is the punishment for not doing so? No card will be sent. I agree with the parents, this is going to backfire. As
one person said, the teachers should be setting an example. Instead they're told to tolerate (but not condone!) such language in class. If a student
goes over 5 times, their teacher will speak to the class. That, however, may constitute a new lesson...
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 01:48 PM by HumptyDumpty
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This is one step closer to home schooling my kids, if/when I have some.
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 02:08 PM by EnronOutrunHomerun
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The town’s slogan should read:
Striving for mediocrity in all the obtuse ways one sorta-kinda can….
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 02:09 PM by junglejake
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 Striving for mediocrity in all the obtuse ways one sorta-kinda can…. 
Actually, it should be, "Striving for $#%&ing mediocrity in all the %^$&ing obtuse ways one ^%$#ing sorta-kinda can."
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 02:13 PM by EnronOutrunHomerun
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LM %^$%^$#%#AO
You still have 2 more to go today! *pats junglejake on the head* Now off ya go to recess, where we won't be listening....
I wonder how many times the parents are letting them curse at them at home....
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 02:16 PM by JacKatMtn
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how many times can they say "bloody hell" !!!
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 02:31 PM by gangster45
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That is just ridiculous
What's next for high-school kids? Anyone who doesn't do more than 5 lines of cocaine off their desks during a single lesson gets an extra cookie at
lunch???
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 07:37 PM by junglejake
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Oh come now, you know how poorly funded public schools are. They can't afford coke -- it'll be 5 lines of crystal meth.
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 07:39 PM by Rikimaru
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Seems like the english schools need to bring back the cane to keep them in line, I remember seeing kids get smacked with rulers and they tended not to
lip off.
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 07:41 PM by dr_strangecraft
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If the student swears over 5 times, they will be spoken to after class.

My only question is, what is the word that will spoken to them?
And does it start with "F"?
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 07:49 PM by DarkHelmet
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At my High School... The teachers don't really care much if you curse... but the one word that is disciplined is if you say the F word... It's just
a warning the first time. My US History teacher even swears during teaching. He tells us the some things n History just can't be explained well
enough without the use of some of those words. I have absolutely no problem with it, and he's actually one of the better teacgers. Makes learning
about the civil war much more fun. But what this school is doing... is just ^$%#ing idiotic. (1 down, 4 to go)
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 07:54 PM by junglejake
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I dunno, I don't think someone is very eloquent if they have to swear to get their point across. I'm sure you've seen the $#!^ episode of South
Park -- the words lose their meaning if used too often. Personally, I only swear once in a blue moon. Not due to a moral issue so much (not really
sure how saying the f word is taking the Lord's name in vain), but for other reasons. First, for the sake of decency -- I can convey myself well
enough without offending or potentially offending others. The other reason is that when I do swear, people suddenly start listening. Sometimes that's
not a good thing, tho
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 08:12 PM by Zaphod58
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What choice do schools have anymore. If they do anything to discipline the kids they run home and tell mommy and daddy and blow it out of proportion,
and the parents rush to the school and demand to know why their perfect little angel got punished in school. Until parents take responsibility for
disciplining their kids, and raising them properly, this is always going to be a problem.
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 08:48 PM by Conspicuouz
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this is pretty odd to say the least. one way i can see it working is by giving the kids this freedom to curse, they will grow bored of it and try to
use other words to express themselves. maybe i'm giving our youth too much credit, but i can see this happening.
what a great way to vent.
*kid receives a C+ on math test*
YOU FLAMING C**T, YOU SHOULD GET YOUR F**KING HEAD OUT YOUR ASS NEXT TIME YOU GRADE THESE SH*TY TEST OF YOURS!
and he'll still make the 'good boy' praise
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 09:20 PM by jsobecky
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Please, somebody tell me that this is a joke, a satirical piece on language.
This cannot be true.
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reply posted on 1-9-2005 @ 11:21 PM by junglejake
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I wish I could, Becky. I really wish I could.
If it's any consolation, it's only one school doing this, and when it completely backfires, hopefully it will be a lesson to others. Sadly, I doubt
it will be...I'm guessing others will think they didn't do it right and get rid of the 5 F limit.
What's really disturbing is what's taking place here in America somehow under the radar. There's a thread about the schools superceding parents in
medication distribution and discipline distribution:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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reply posted on 2-9-2005 @ 01:27 AM by NinjaCodeMonkey
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They should have grown up in South Africa, if you swore at a teacher 10 very painful canes for you and probably expulsion. We should be teaching our
children to respect their teachers not tell them to go f themselves, it is a crying shame.
My one teacher used to take a run up before he caned you, ahh good times.
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reply posted on 2-9-2005 @ 02:31 AM by Jestaman
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Does this include all types of the f word?
"She f***ing pisses me off." DOes that count?
"She f***ed herself over." Does that count?
"F***ity." Does that count? Is that a word or did I make it up?
Or does it have to be F***! to get written down?
4 down, one to go.
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reply posted on 2-9-2005 @ 05:46 AM by jsobecky
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Originally posted by junglejake
What's really disturbing is what's taking place here in America somehow under the radar. There's a thread about the schools superceding parents in
medication distribution and discipline distribution:
www.abovetopsecret.com... 
That thread is misinformation at it's finest. The "facts" presented there are exaggerated, hyperbolic and downright false. Look back through my
posts if you want to; in a much earlier thread, I responded after having contacted both of my US Senators.
The scary part is that people jump to such conclusions instead of doing the proper research.
Sorry for going off-topic.
-john
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reply posted on 2-9-2005 @ 04:56 PM by dr_strangecraft
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First, profanity is a crutch of the inarticulate. The word that starts with F is used in so many contradictory ways as to have no real meaning of
it's own. Most profanity has absolutely no purpose, other than to communicate the superlative degree, for which actual words are far more
precise.
Second, what profanity communicates primarily is a profound lack of self-control. A person swearing is basically processing thoughts out loud and
demonstrating his lack of respect for others, in that he either expects them to be either enraged or terrified by his profanity.
Third, we live in a society that glorifies confrontation. From Soap operas to professional wrestling to political debates, Americans and Britons are
fascinated with confronting people and then verbally getting "up in their grill." Note the fascination with confrontation TV in the US like Jerry
Springer, Cops, and "reality TV" in general. Profanity does not prepare youth to bargain or dialogue with authority; it teaches them to invite the
wrath of others and to "match emotions" with the person doing the swearing.
Fourth, profanity generally has an inverse correlation with socio-economic status. If you have ever been around the rich and powerful, they rarely
swear. I believe one of the reasons for this is that their wielding of social/economic/political/military power is based on their ability to control
their emotions.
I have found that, in a society were profanity is a common-place, I can usually get a person's attention with "word-images" that are startling for
their lack of profanity.
The one exception I have found to these ideas is when dealing with low-lifes, such as professional criminals. When I started in law enforcement, I
worked in the booking room of a local agency. I originally tried to assure prisoners that my job was to secure their civil rights; that we operated a
clean and safe jail, and that I had no personal stake in their guilt or innocence, but that they would be treated fairly until released.
After about 6-months, I reduced my introductory speech to the following:
"You can F--- with the cops, You can F---with the judge for all I care; but you'd bettern not F--- with me, because I fix your food. Do we
UNDERSTAND each other?"
In my experience, the worse the criminal, the quicker they got the point. While there is no sure indicator of innocence or guilt, I did notice that
the innocent usually began weeping after my speech, where as the guilty usually shook my hand at that point and said something along the lines of,
"bro, we gone be tight, dude. You get no probs from me."
In summary, there are few situations where profanity is called for, and those situations are not encountered by people who mind their own business and
stay out of government buildings in so far as is possible.
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