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NEWS: Brains can wear out, leading to Dementia

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posted on Sep, 5 2005 @ 10:24 PM
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MS - rats - no time. Was thinking of a particular article - but no time to sort, find it. Sorry. The full text of the one I mean is available online - it reviews apoptosis in lengthy text. ...James is a cardiologist, previously with the WHO - and has done great work - he's retired now, I think.

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Normal and abnormal consequences of apoptosis in the human heart ...
Apoptosis and necrosis are two distinctly different forms of cell death and both
... James TN. Department of Medicine, University of Texas Medical Branch, ...
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Apoptosis in congenital heart disease.
1997 Oct;8(10):599-616. Apoptosis in congenital heart disease. James TN.
Department of Medicine, University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston 77555-0129, ...
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JAMES TN (1998) Normal and abnormal consequences of apoptosis in the human heart.
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Apoptosis cells were detected with TUNEL (in situ terminal deoxynucleotidyl ...
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posted on Sep, 5 2005 @ 11:14 PM
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While there seems to be a lot of tossing of the medical jargon, I fail to see the connection between apoptosis, daydreaming, and how they relate to Alzheimer's. If daydreaming causes Alzheimer's I would think that the numbers of those afflicted would be overwhelming. Not to mention that I have always been led to believe that you should use your brain or lose it. The original posting seems to indicate that you could wear out portions of your brain. Does this mean that some day mathmeticians will no longer be able to count, poets will lose the ability to comprehend laguage?



posted on Sep, 5 2005 @ 11:49 PM
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Someone Who Is Apparently Not Suffering From Alzheimer's


Originally posted by IndigenousDave
The original posting seems to indicate that you could wear out portions of your brain. Does this mean that some day mathmeticians will no longer be able to count, poets will lose the ability to comprehend laguage?

Damn you and your Vulcan logic!


Yes, I think some skepticism on premature conclusions regarding what all this means is in order.

Still, we can daydream about it...



posted on Sep, 5 2005 @ 11:49 PM
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It's very important because of research being done in regenerative medicine. What would happen if people can live 150 years and we can regenerate every part of the body...except the brain, well it wouldn't be fun to have a perfectly able body but little brains to actually use it.

It seems the brain is purposely slow in self-replicating probably due to it's memory retaining abilities is tied to how long it takes to regen a brain cell. If we regenerate our brain completely, we risk wiping our memory out, sort of like formatting your harddrive on your computer. Now if we use our brain more since our brain can't regenerate itself, then it's common sense to hypothesis that that more use would wear it out faster not less use(eg "Day Dreaming")



posted on Sep, 6 2005 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by Majic
Yes, I think some skepticism on premature conclusions regarding what all this means is in order.


Absolutely. And I would like to stress that conclusions are not necassarily being presented. Conditions and possibilities and probably a base understanding (on my part) of neurological function....which won't stop me from continuing..


Alot of what I write is based on my extrapolation.....which is why I invite response...so that I might encounter other perspectives. The exact reason I frequent ATS, by the way, to find someone who will tell me I missed a point and thusly sending me into a different direction...

Indigenous Dave



Originally posted by IndigenousDave
While there seems to be a lot of tossing of the medical jargon, I fail to see the connection between apoptosis, daydreaming, and how they relate to Alzheimer's.


I think that there is......the reasoning is potently mine and my difficulty in expression and the nature of the connection is probably why it seems a bit off.....

The reasoning is this....daydreaming is solely based on memory. In order to daydream, you are rrecalling your experiences and re-experiencing them on a fanciful basis...which would thus negate any response/attenuation to outside stimulii and the continued excerise of the analytical/evolved intelligent protions of our brains. And if daydreaming occurred on a dominant basis, the rest of the brain could be interpretated (on a physical/cellular level) as unneccassary. Which could create a condition for apoptosis to occur...on a generational scale. It's actually becoming a base reference point in my quest to understand social the implications of social-engineering.

Alzhiemer's is the degradation of the brian in the realms of memory, and thusly, it warrants attention.



If daydreaming causes Alzheimer's I would think that the numbers of those afflicted would be overwhelming.


Think the corrolation of lower intelligence and the lack of anything to do back in the day when society was still prior to what could be considered even pre-modern society. Alot of repetition and repetition allows for a physical action to be integrated as long-term memory...which allows for day dreaming to occur even in periods of action..



Does this mean that some day mathmeticians will no longer be able to count, poets will lose the ability to comprehend laguage?


No. Not even remotely. The axiom 'use it or lose it' really does apply. In order for memory to be a valid goto source it has to constantly be updated.

soficrow

Thanks...


[edit on 6-9-2005 by MemoryShock]



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 12:55 AM
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Thank you for clearing that up, MemoryShock. I was having trouble making the connections. It only worries me because I love to daydream. Sometimes there is nothing better than to zone out.



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