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Topic started on 23-8-2005 @ 02:17 PM by Netchicken
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Yes indeed, the theory of gravity has been loosing its adherents for years as disillusioned scientists strive for an alternative explanation of the
process.
The dissonance experienced by scientists as they try to reconcile the flawed theories of gravity with what they know is their hearts as the truth, has
led to many scientists renouncing their profession and seeking enlightenment on lonely mountains instead.
This new theory was immediatly accepted in the scientific community with warm acceptance and schools will introduce the theory of "Intelligent
Falling" as soon as possible.
The Theory of Intelligent Falling states that objects fall, not because of the mysterious and unknown force of gravity, but because God pushes
them down, and represents a new breakthrough in the understanding of the world around us.
TOPEKA, KS—As the debate over the teaching of evolution in public schools
continues, a new controversy over the science curriculum arose Monday in this embattled Midwestern state. Scientists from the Evangelical Center For
Faith-Based Reasoning are now asserting that the long-held "theory of gravity" is flawed, and they have responded to it with a new theory of
Intelligent Falling.
Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is pushing
them down,
said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University.
Burdett added: "Gravity—which is taught to our children as a law—is founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual force
between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force. Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend upon a force
for which philosophers have searched all of nature in vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."
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reply posted on 23-8-2005 @ 02:29 PM by thematrix
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I saw a thread on here earlyer about the Muslim world being in its own Dark Ages. Someone even mentioned science and general knowledge being
suppressed by the religion to keep the people under control.
Now, I'm asking myself, are the people that say that, totaly blind of whats happening around them?
The US Christianity groups are pushing the US itself, the supposed most advanced nation in the world, back to the frigin stoneages, let alone the Dark
Ages.
What will they come up with next? Exorsizing and executing disabled people because they are possesed by demons? Witchhunts? Relying purely on prayer
to solve medical problems? Calling for math being removed from school teaching because at some point it comes across the number 666?
How far and rediculous will they get with this nonsense??
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reply posted on 23-8-2005 @ 02:33 PM by groingrinder
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This has to be a joke, right?? Next they will start teaching that the sun revolves around the earth.
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reply posted on 23-8-2005 @ 02:45 PM by Mirthful Me
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Originally posted by Netchicken
Burdett added: "Gravity—which is taught to our children as a law—is founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual force
between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force. Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend upon a force
for which philosophers have searched all of nature in vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."
As an early adopter of the "Intelligent Falling," I can assure you that all my falls have been "created" by only the most ingenious "design"
(usually a Bordeaux or a Burgundy, but Super Tuscans and the occasional Napa also factor into my need to commune with a "higher power"). Make no
mistake, the application of this "understanding" is not dependent on the sublime
works of "Him," but can be replicated by the most
users.vnet.net..." target="_blank" class="postlink">profane among us. God may have designed the fruit of the vine, but man invented the screw
cap, and thus "equality" in falling. Whether the cathedral of the cellar, or the church of the alley, all may find solace in “His” newly found
stretch of ground.
Wine Snob Monkeys, not just for setting science back 500 years anymore...
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reply posted on 23-8-2005 @ 08:24 PM by SomewhereinBetween
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I wonder who these "disilliusioned" scientists may be and how they explain the rotten breadfruit from its branch or the dead leaf losing its abiilty
to hold on to its precarious perch.
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reply posted on 23-8-2005 @ 08:40 PM by df1
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Originally posted by groingrinder
This has to be a joke, right?? Next they will start teaching that the sun revolves around the earth.
It's absolutely true as is evidence from this classified NASA photograph which was extracted from a slow motion video of God's hand moving at great
speed around the earth. A cleric from the church of holy moly who is employed by NASA remarked that God only requires a single finger to
establish gravity, not an entire hand as many believe.
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reply posted on 23-8-2005 @ 08:41 PM by SkepticOverlord
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I also heard of the religious fundamentalist challenge of the laws of thermodynamics. Their new, Second Law of Intelligent Energy states that "in all
energy exchanges, if no energy enters or leaves the system, an unseen all-powerful intelligent force is removing just the right amount of energy to
preserve the system's degradation." Some are also calling this divine entropy. Other provided examples are a watchspring-driven watch will run until
the potential energy in the spring is removed by an unseen all-powerful intelligent force, and not again until energy is reapplied to the spring to
rewind it; or a car that has run out of gas because an unseen all-powerful intelligent force burned it in the car engine will not run again until you
refuel the car.
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reply posted on 23-8-2005 @ 08:56 PM by Benevolent Heretic
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I just can’t tell you how thrilled I am to hear this good news!! All this time, I’ve thought I was just clumsy or that my feet didn’t work
right, when the Truth is that God wants me on the ground!
I could never explain transcendental meditation, the flying yogis or David Blaine’s levitation. Now, it’s all clear! God doesn’t want them on
the ground!
I know this is just the beginning of the revelation of new laws and that a spontaneous human combustion explanation is just around the corner! I’m
betting that has to do with some sort of burning bush!
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reply posted on 23-8-2005 @ 09:33 PM by FallenFromTheTree
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DEAR LORD PLEASE SAVE US FROM THE EVANGELISTS!
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reply posted on 23-8-2005 @ 10:12 PM by SportyMB
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This has to be a joke, right?? Next they will start teaching that the sun revolves around the earth.
You mean the sun DON'T revolve around the earth?!?!?!
Just joking......
Yeah, Im a Chrisitian and Ill admit...this Intelligent Gravity thing is taking it too far. There is a good explanation for gravity....the space and
time one explains it pretty good...why not use that one, it's the most accepted, I think.
Anyways, the Lord works in mysterious ways....maybe Gravity is some unexplainable force that we will never understand and only divine intervention
keeps us on the ground
sporty
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reply posted on 23-8-2005 @ 10:35 PM by webweevil
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Paise the LORD!
This is great news!!
At last the children will be freed from the satanic bonds of evolutionism. They will be free to study God's world as He intended it.
Science can only take us so far, it still doesn't even understand the speed of light. I read that it changes and is not constant.
But our God is bigger than science, not only does HE understand the speed of light, he even understands the speed of dark, which is much more
difficult to measure.
Praise the LORD its about time we bought back the horse and cart as well, when the oil is gone.
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reply posted on 24-8-2005 @ 05:47 AM by FatherLukeDuke
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For those of you haven't followed the link you might want to before you ask "is this true?". You might notice that the headline story from the
site is Rumsfeld Makes Surprise Visit...
This might have some basis in truth (it was apparently an "in and out" operation), however you have to be a bit suspect.
The ever fantastic The Onion has really hit the nail on the head with this one, as only satire can do sometimes.
The reason some people might think the story is true is because claiming Intelligent Falling is a science is no more or less silly than claiming
Intelligent Design is one. Just like ID, IF has no actual theory to back it up it just relies on finding problems with existing scientific
theories.
The theories of gravity have all sorts of significant problems (the very fact that there is more than one is a problem), but does that mean we should
just abandon trying to crack those problems as a waste of time and say that "God did it"? Most people would say of course not. Exactly the the
same argument applies to the theory of evolution, just because it can't currently explain everything about life on this planet should we just
throw our hands up and say "ah well, looks like an intelligent designer (ie God) must have done it"? Everyone is free to do this, however to
somehow claim that this approach is scientific is laughable.
EDIT shorten title of source
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reply posted on 24-8-2005 @ 09:06 AM by df1
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Tell me who was most surprised, his wife or the troops at that location?
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reply posted on 24-8-2005 @ 09:09 AM by marg6043
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This may sound funny coming from the “onion” link but is very true, In another thread that I started of books to be use to teach ID this topic of
gravity will fall under the “The Design Inference” written by William Dembski.
The design inference uncovers intelligent causes by isolating the key trademark of intelligent causes: specified events of small probability. Just
about anything that happens is highly improbable, but when a highly improbable event is also specified (i.e., conforms to an independently given
pattern) undirected natural causes lose their explanatory power. Design inferences can be found in a range of scientific pursuits from forensic
science to research into the origins of life to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence.
Now since Mr. Bush has given his verbal approval to teaching ID in US schools, has been an array of books already been suggested for the teaching of
everything that has to do with science.
Remember that the goal is not to promote “other theories” of origins but to take over science altogether.
I bet is more books to come as the pushing of ID in schools becomes a reality.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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reply posted on 24-8-2005 @ 09:36 PM by Al Davison
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The things we laugh about today become tomorrow's realities.
Never take for granted that the "general public" (who are these guys, anyway?) won't be so stupid as to either advocate for it or sit idly by and
watch it happen.
I know it's a joke, a spoof, a goof, whatever...I just don't think it's impossible.
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reply posted on 24-8-2005 @ 09:45 PM by Jestaman
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Anyone in Europe willing to take a frightened American in? I fear what will become of my country with these people. 2+2=1 4-5=99039854.432 and a
half, George Washington was the first Black president, and iron weighs less then air, anything I got wrong?
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reply posted on 24-8-2005 @ 10:07 PM by TheBandit795
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They've found evidence that the sun's rays have reached only 6000 lightyears away, so that means that the sun is exactly 6000 years old. Btw...
Jesus was burn on the 4000th anniversary of the sun.
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reply posted on 24-8-2005 @ 10:17 PM by Rren
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I'm sure you guys know that this is a hoax/spoof...yes? Anyways here's an actual ID proponent talking about gravity theory seeing how this
is the new anti-ID topic as of late. "Leave evolution alone we'd rather debate gravity" not sure where this comes from or where it's going
but ok, to each his own.
The Scientific Status of Intelligent Design:
Perhaps another example will help. If one wishes to explain why astronauts were able to fly to the moon when apples usually fall to the earth,
one will not primarily cite the law of gravity. Such a law is far too general to be primarily relevant to explanation in this context, because the law
allows for a vast array of possible outcomes depending on initial and boundary conditions. The law stating that all matter gravitates according to an
inverse square law is consistent with both an apple falling to the earth and with an astronaut flying to the moon. Explaining why the astronaut flew
when apples routinely fall, therefore, requires more than citing the law, since the law is presumed operative in both situations. Accounting for the
differing outcomes—the falling apple and the flying astronaut—will require references to the antecedent conditions and events that differed in the
two situations. Indeed, explanation in this case involves an accounting of the way engineers have used technology to alter the conditions affecting
the astronauts to allow them to overcome the constraints that gravity ordinarily imposes on earthbound objects.
Seems like these guys are cool with gravity theory as is, maybe i'm missing something
Originally posted by marg6043
This may sound funny coming from the “onion” link but is very true, In another thread that I started of books to be use to teach ID this topic of
gravity will fall under the “The Design Inference” written by William Dembski.
The design inference uncovers intelligent causes by isolating the key trademark of intelligent causes: specified events of small probability. Just
about anything that happens is highly improbable, but when a highly improbable event is also specified (i.e., conforms to an independently given
pattern) undirected natural causes lose their explanatory power. Design inferences can be found in a range of scientific pursuits from forensic
science to research into the origins of life to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence.
Marge care to elaborate on how this quote, or Dembski's book in general will be used to teach the brilliant new "intelligent falling theory".
Remember that the goal is not to promote “other theories” of origins but to take over science altogether.
I bet is more books to come as the pushing of ID in schools becomes a reality.
Paranoid much? "take over science altogether" ok, if you say so
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reply posted on 24-8-2005 @ 10:23 PM by they see ALL
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w0w...
just w0w...
if the scientists say that God is pushing them down, then doesn't this mean that they are saying that He exists???
how can they say He exists without scientific proof???
i am confused
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reply posted on 24-8-2005 @ 10:37 PM by Mirthful Me
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Originally posted by Rren
I'm sure you guys know that this is a hoax/spoof...yes?
A spoof? I assure that the design of all my falls (not to be confused with all my base) were founded in faith, tried and true... I never cottoned to
the heresy of Darwin and Galileo... Equal and opposite my non evolutionized monkey butt. Falling is grace most divine... Intelligently designed by a
higher power, devoid of equation or earthly bounds.
Plummeting Monkeys, not just for terminal velocity anymore...
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