Originally posted by Rren
The Scientific Status of Intelligent Design:
Perhaps another example will help. If one wishes to explain why astronauts were able to fly to the moon when apples usually fall to the earth,
one will not primarily cite the law of gravity. Such a law is far too general to be primarily relevant to explanation in this context, because the law
allows for a vast array of possible outcomes depending on initial and boundary conditions. The law stating that all matter gravitates according to an
inverse square law is consistent with both an apple falling to the earth and with an astronaut flying to the moon. Explaining why the astronaut flew
when apples routinely fall, therefore, requires more than citing the law, since the law is presumed operative in both situations. Accounting for the
differing outcomes—the falling apple and the flying astronaut—will require references to the antecedent conditions and events that differed in the
two situations. Indeed, explanation in this case involves an accounting of the way engineers have used technology to alter the conditions affecting
the astronauts to allow them to overcome the constraints that gravity ordinarily imposes on earthbound objects.
Seems like these guys are cool with gravity theory as is, maybe i'm missing something
That passage you have quoted makes no mention of the theories of gravity at all. It talks about the Law of Gravity which, as well as being a
mathematical postulate, is all about describing how objects behave because of gravity. For example if you drop an object on Earth it will
accelerate towards it at roughly 9.8 metres per second per second, this is an aspect of that Law. The theories of gravity attempt to explain
why the object falls towards the Earth.
From what I gather, none of these theories work completely and they contradict each other in many cases. This would seem to leave the door open to
saying "well it must be God then". Not sure how many people advocate this, though logically if you are going to have Intelligent Design then you
must be able to have other faux sciences that try to explain other aspects of reality in terms of an "intelligent designer".
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Its very simple Rren with “Design inference” anything that can not be explain by scientific method is a “trademark of intelligent causes” if
you can not explain how gravity came to be then you can apply intelligent causes to explain it, “God did it” he,he. Occurs you know is a joke.
Now is not surprised that already is been explanations by Creationist and ID believers that will cover any subject in relation to sciences, history,
philosophy and almost anything else.
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Gravity cannot be explained as of yet. But it can be witnessed. There are countless astronomical examples whereby stars, meteors, commets have been
affected by the gravitational forces of certain bodies which they come into close proximity with. The Sirrus stars are a perfect example whereby the
gravitational forces of each cause the other to 'wobble' along its orbit. (I am no astronomer so excuse the crude example)
I dont know where God gets the time to create so many people and still manage all that pushing and pulling...  never mind all the other things on
his day-planner.
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In that case if I jump off a building, I am not falling I am being pushed down by God, therefore god is murdering me. And when a place crashes it is
not falling, it's being pushed down by God. Therefore God is a mass murderer.
[edit on 29-8-2005 by DarkSide]
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Why cant they just believe that god created the laws? Why does it seem that they want that god does everything directly?
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Good point Darkside, where do I file the papers for mass murder?
"In the case of World v God for the murders of several billion people over the past 20-30 thousand years the lawyer Jonny Cochren(sp? also I heard
he died so this works perfectly for God) has the CHewbacca defense, the defense that made him famous in life during the OJ Simpson case. The
prosecuters have evidence by the ton, literally. They have dump trucks full of documents proving the case, this is considered to be a dog and pony
show as everyone knows God is guilty. When convicted he could face up to 7,000 years to life, and being immortal......."
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