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Topic started on 5-8-2005 @ 09:21 AM by emile


Many many signs could prove that Chinese next generation fighter likely close to MI.44
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China do has a esp. method. They may develop a heavy fighter and import a light fighter which like MiG-2000 or S-54. China presist in this way because they hope to develop their own pivotal tech. The light fighters tech would be imported for Taiwan conjuncture.
that light fighter would also be product under licences.


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reply posted on 5-8-2005 @ 09:40 AM by Daedalus3


IS there any indication that the chinese are really planning to build this?
because there is a plethora of chinese CG artists online..
And most like to show PLAAF jets shooting down USAF ones..
Is that a couple of F-15s I see in the 1st pic?

I can see that the CG guy has taken great care to include a rear-ward facing radar...
Although he forgot to include rudders on any of those J-10Bs..
No yaw for the J-10B



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reply posted on 5-8-2005 @ 10:00 AM by Seekerof


People really need to learn how to resize images....

Anyhow, here is the real J-10B.





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reply posted on 5-8-2005 @ 11:23 AM by Stealth Spy


LOL ... i know where you have got those pics from .

It clearly says that its fan art and nothing but fan art.

There is a 2 seat J-10 called J-10B and it exists.


Nice try



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reply posted on 5-8-2005 @ 11:46 AM by GrOuNd_ZeRo


Those pictures are pretty damn sweet though! I have heard that the Chinese ARE developing a dual engine J-10 with TVC.



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reply posted on 5-8-2005 @ 12:20 PM by skippytjc


They should have just bought some F16 or Lavi trainers, saved themselves some cash



*DUCKS*




This is a joke people, roll with it



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reply posted on 5-8-2005 @ 12:27 PM by COWlan


Huh, that post didn't last long. Skippy, re-read your post man and think.



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reply posted on 5-8-2005 @ 04:06 PM by SOC



Originally posted by Daedalus3
Although he forgot to include rudders on any of those J-10Bs..
No yaw for the J-10B


That's probably because you can see in the first image that he designed the vertical tails to be all-moving, like on the YF-23.

Anyway this is pure CG fantasy, and that's a good thing. That jet he designed is so not stealthy that it's not even funny.



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reply posted on 5-8-2005 @ 04:55 PM by evanfitz


I really hope when people look at these photos they realise that some sort of hostile activity against the west is being presented.


Kinda funny, but nice art. I really dont have high expectations for the J-10.



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reply posted on 6-8-2005 @ 02:46 AM by emile


Yes, I also thought that pics really showed J-13 OR J-14, but I just called it according to resources.
I just wish to remind of you guys talk about why China choose the aerodynamics shape like MigI.44. I have been thinking that this kind of shape is much more advanced than F-22's shape. If US not face to this problem seriously, they are going to get a enormous risk certainly.


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reply posted on 6-8-2005 @ 02:50 AM by Figher Master FIN


Ok, when posting pics it would be nice if you would try to take real pics, Cos that way it's easier to understand and see and believe...



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reply posted on 6-8-2005 @ 02:54 AM by chinawhite



Originally posted by Seekerof

Anyhow, here is the real J-10B.

seekerof


emile means a twin engined J-10. anyway the J-10B is a un-offical name given to the J-10 trainer. it could be named the J-10A.

these names are un-offical



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reply posted on 6-8-2005 @ 02:59 AM by emile



Originally posted by emile
Yes, I also thought that pics really showed J-13 OR J-14, but I just called it according to resources.
I just wish to remind of you guys talk about why China choose the aerodynamics shape like MigI.44. I have been thinking that this kind of shape is much more advanced than F-22's shape. If US not face to this problem seriously, they are going to get a enormous risk certainly.


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Continue to what I have said, I has anouced a warning that if U.S. has got a real photo, I think that will be too late to find some countermeasures. Don't forget, every times U.S. always got failure because of China no matter in KOREA or VIETNAM.

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reply posted on 6-8-2005 @ 02:59 AM by jetsetter


I actually know the guy who created these images.



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reply posted on 6-8-2005 @ 03:06 AM by emile



Originally posted by chinawhite

emile means a twin engined J-10. anyway the J-10B is a un-offical name given to the J-10 trainer. it could be named the J-10A.

these names are un-offical


Ok, the other way is that J-10 project could be a huge plan of catenas. J-10C maybe a fighter launched from carrier I guess.



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reply posted on 6-8-2005 @ 03:38 AM by Seekerof



Originally posted by chinawhite
....anyway the J-10B is a un-offical name given to the J-10 trainer.
these names are un-offical



Ermm, don't think so there, chinawhite.
The J-10 is a single seat tactical fighter, whereas the J-10B, is a two-seater advanced trainer version.
It is seemingly quite official.
Hit the link again, or hit this one:


This two-seat J-10B fighter-trainer aircraft successfully flew in 2003. Preliminary designs for two new versions of the J-10 featuring single and twin engines and LO geometry were also completed.


Chengdu J-10
The GlobalSecurity.org link even has faked photos and concept art posted. Someone might want to send this one to add to their growing collection.





seekerof



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reply posted on 6-8-2005 @ 04:38 AM by chinawhite


Seekerof china does not give their trainers names like J-10B or J-7B.

its a JL-XX or JJ-XX. if its something else its un-offical



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reply posted on 6-8-2005 @ 04:43 AM by Daedalus3



Originally posted by SOC

Originally posted by Daedalus3
Although he forgot to include rudders on any of those J-10Bs..
No yaw for the J-10B


That's probably because you can see in the first image that he designed the vertical tails to be all-moving, like on the YF-23.

Anyway this is pure CG fantasy, and that's a good thing. That jet he designed is so not stealthy that it's not even funny.


Ah .. Even I thought so at first but those wings are designed and fixed at that eccentric angle..
The a/c in the first and 2nd pic are the same..
And in the 2nd pic you can clearly see that the tail has no pivot space to move horizontally..
Still no yaw..



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reply posted on 6-8-2005 @ 04:50 AM by Seekerof



Originally posted by chinawhite
Seekerof china does not give their trainers names like J-10B or J-7B.

its a JL-XX or JJ-XX. if its something else its un-offical



Apparently, they do, chinawhite, indicated by the links.
Your source saying otherwise?




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reply posted on 6-8-2005 @ 05:40 AM by waynos


But global security isn't a chinese site is it? References to a 'J-10B' are merely Westernised designsations for our own consumption, you know like 'J-10B' is the second, two seat version indicated by the fact that B is the second letter of our alphabet, it isn't the 2nd letter of the Chinese alphabet (I presume, I wouldn't know).



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