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Originally posted by Seekerof
Anthony Cordesman is talking out his behind.
How so?
His 5% figure is based off those detained and alive 600 that have been identified as "foreign fighters" out of a total 14,000 alive detainees. Furthermore, he is not taking into his calculations, those "foreign fighters" that have been killed, he is only figuring on those that are alive and detained. Interesting, no? Real accurate there, Mr. "HELLO!?" Cordesman, huh?
Mr. "I'm talking out my behind and have no clue" Cordesman further fails to identify, and calculate in, the possible number of "foreign fighters," that have not been captured or killed and are currently roaming in Iraq.
That would be how many there, Mr. "No clue" Cordesman?
Btw, how many terrorists would you say are in Iraq, as well?
How about some numbers on how many innocent people these "5%" have
killed/murdered/maimed?
Nice try....
seekerof
[edit on 19-7-2005 by Seekerof]
He totally failed to mention the thousands of native Iraqis that make up the core of the insurgency, the fact we have only some 600 foreign detainees out of a total of 14,000, the fact most intelligence estimates put foreign fighters at around 5% of the total, and the fact we face a major native popular Sunni uprising and deep Sunni distrust.
It is unlikely that such groups make up more 10% of the insurgent force, and may make up around 5%. While the number of foreign volunteers has increased with time, it is also important to point out that as of June 2005, they made up less than 600 of some 14,000 detainees. Coalition experts also estimated that they had made up less than 5% of insurgent casualties and detainees to date.
Originally posted by Seekerof
Anthony Cordesman is talking out his behind.
How so?
His 5% figure is based off those detained and alive 600 that have been identified as "foreign fighters" out of a total 14,000 alive detainees. Furthermore, he is not taking into his calculations, those "foreign fighters" that have been killed, he is only figuring on those that are alive and detained.
www.mnf-iraq.com...
GEN. ALSTON: Your question is specifically about -- kind of the Zarqawi piece of this, the Islamic extremists, the foreign fighter component to this. I don't know what the numbers were back in June of last year. I know right now we loosely characterize it as about 5 percent of the enemy as foreign fighters.
Originally posted by Seekerof
If 5% of 14000 is 700 and you have 600 alive and detained, is that a true representation of the total number of "foreign fighters" that have or are in Iraq, koji_K?
And when you calculate in "thousands," that percent jumps to what?
Not buying Mr. Cordesman's "5%" or the singular or two sources you are putting forth. All this amounts to nothing but another attempt to say that Bush and the US "inflated" the number of "foreign fighters" in Iraq.
Nothing more. You know it and I know it,cause quite frankly, it will never be accurately known how many "foreign fighters" have been or are in Iraq.
Few Signs of Infiltration by Foreign Fighters in Iraq
In Washington late last month, officials estimated the number of foreign fighters in Iraq at 1000 to 3000, and the White House has been suggesting that ...
www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1119-12.htm - 17k - Cached - Similar pages
Foreign fighters increase presence in Iraq - (United Press ...
One source put the number of foreign fighters looking to enter Iraq to fight America by way of that route in the thousands, having started moving in small ...
washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/ 20040623-094344-1804r.htm - 53k - Cached - Similar pages
Iraq | A foreign tide that ebbs and flows | Economist.com
... the Russians in Afghanistan, then trained in al-Qaeda's camps there the number of foreign fighters in Iraq is small, perhaps in the low thousands. ...
www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4113501 - Similar pages
Originally posted by koji_K
...the illusion I was trying to dispel was that foreign fighters are the majority of fighters in Iraq,
...which like it or not IS the impression the administration is trying to convey.
Originally posted by Seekerof
A number of ways to Google will substantiate those "thousands," just as you and AceOfBase are doing when locating those "5%" numbers....
seekerof
Originally posted by Seekerof
Thats like figuring the total number of french fries you have on your plate, and only counting those that are left on your plate as a 'total sum' and not including those that you have already eaten, which was originally on your plate in the first place when the waitress brought the plate of fries to you. :shk:
seekerof
[edit on 19-7-2005 by Seekerof]
The head of intelligence services in Baghdad says that there are more than 200,000 fighters...
Iraq's insurgency counts more than 200,000 active fighters and sympathisers, the country's national intelligence chief told AFP, in the bleakest assessment to date of the armed revolt waged by Sunni Muslims.