That's too weird.. No matter what I do.. the link to the cached article is good until I post it here. (Even in PREVIEW) Upon posting, it magically turns into a link to some nonsense google page. What's up w/that?

I will gladly surrender points for this long post.. Here is the whole article since the link will not appear correctly.

Lawyer claims FBI informer linked to McVeigh bombing

By Pamela Manson
The Salt Lake Tribune

Salt Lake Tribune

A Salt Lake City lawyer says an FBI informant who was an explosives expert might have trained accomplices of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh at a white supremacist compound.
Attorney Jesse Trentadue says two teletypes sent by the FBI's director show that an informer had infiltrated a paramilitary training compound in Oklahoma known as Elohim City and was there in April 1995 when one of the bombing suspects allegedly called looking for co-conspirators.
The name of the informant and caller are blacked out, but Trentadue suspects they are Andreas Strassmeir, a German national who he says was the weapons and explosives instructor at the compound, and McVeigh, who allegedly was trying to recruit accomplices two weeks before the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building that killed 168 people. The attorney says he believes Strassmeir was working either for the FBI or for the Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama-based civil rights group, which relayed the information to the agency.
If his suspicion about the informant's identity is correct, "then not only does it appear that FBI defendants knew about and fail[ed] to prevent the attack upon the Murrah Building, but FBI defendants may also have been responsible for training McVeigh and the others who planned and carried out the attack," Trentadue says in a document filed Monday at U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City.
The accusation was made in the lawyer's lawsuit that alleges the FBI is violating the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) by refusing to turn over documents connected to the 1995 death of his brother in an Oklahoma prison.
This latest allegation by Trentadue follows one he made last month that the FBI probably knew in advance about the bombing but did nothing to stop the attack.
The FBI and the Department of Justice, which represents the agency in the lawsuit, do not comment on pending litigation. The FBI has responded in court papers that it has followed FOIA procedures and asked U.S. District Judge Dale Kimball to dismiss the suit.
But Trentadue says the judge should reject the request and require the agency to conduct another document search. In an affidavit attached to Monday's filing, retired veteran FBI agent Emanuel Johnson Jr. says he believes the teletypes are genuine and easily retrievable from agency files.
Trentadue does not say how he obtained the teletypes, which appear to have been sent to bombing investigators. He is seeking documents on the probe because he believes it holds clues to his brother's death.
Kenneth Trentadue, 44, who had served time for bank robbery, was arrested on a parole violation and had been placed in a federal prison in Oklahoma City when guards found him dead on Aug. 21, 1995, hanging from a noose made of torn bed sheets. His family insists he was killed and contend correctional officers destroyed evidence.
Authorities have denied the allegations and several investigations ruled the death a suicide.
Jesse Trentadue believes that at one time, the FBI was investigating whether a gang that robbed banks to fund attacks on the government was connected to the bombing and suspected his brother of being one of the robbers. The lawyer thinks Kenneth was killed "when things got out of hand" during an interrogation.
McVeigh was executed in 2001. Media reports say Strassmeir returned to Germany soon after the bombing.
pmanson@sltrib.com

I'm not quite sure if I follow you here, EKC. Are you saying that our government had a hand in planning the attack?

Because from what I see here, the were in the middle of an undercover op to try to catch McVeigh before it happened, it just looks like he got to it before they could stop him..

Maybe I'm wrong?

Help me to understand.

But good info otherwise.

ECK, have you read the book by Jayna Davis, The Third Terrorist? If so what did you think?

Roper

Originally posted by Roper
ECK, have you read the book by Jayna Davis, The Third Terrorist? If so what did you think?

Roper

No, I havn't. Isn't she the reporter who is convinced Saddam and the Iraqis are behind OKC? If its the same person I'm thinking of, my opinion is her stuff is definitely secondary in importance.

Did you read it? What do you think?

This has always been a lingering question in my mind, great postin ECK but ur links dont come up for me. I know u guys question his motives but alex jones has a vid called 911 - The Road to Tyranny. Good collection of channel 4 reportings from 17:15 mins to about 43:30. after that Alex goes back to his commentary and info presentation.

Its a great collection of alot of channel 4's investigations tapings into the whole thing. Of course its got his stuff in it too but at least u get to see some really great reporting done the way it is supposed to be done by the channel 4 reporters. Tenaciously and with Valor. Its a good vid to have in ur collection in my opinion. It was made in 2002 i think so any new info on top of this is kewl. Can u email me those links so i can chk em out?

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
That's too weird.. No matter what I do.. the link to the cached article is good until I post it here. (Even in PREVIEW) Upon posting, it magically turns into a link to some nonsense google page. What's up w/that?

I will gladly surrender points for this long post.. Here is the whole article since the link will not appear correctly.

Lawyer claims FBI informer linked to McVeigh bombing

By Pamela Manson
The Salt Lake Tribune

Salt Lake Tribune

A Salt Lake City lawyer says an FBI informant who was an explosives expert might have trained accomplices of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh at a white supremacist compound.
Attorney Jesse Trentadue says two teletypes sent by the FBI's director show that an informer had infiltrated a paramilitary training compound in Oklahoma known as Elohim City and was there in April 1995 when one of the bombing suspects allegedly called looking for co-conspirators.
The name of the informant and caller are blacked out, but Trentadue suspects they are Andreas Strassmeir, a German national who he says was the weapons and explosives instructor at the compound, and McVeigh, who allegedly was trying to recruit accomplices two weeks before the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building that killed 168 people. The attorney says he believes Strassmeir was working either for the FBI or for the Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama-based civil rights group, which relayed the information to the agency.
If his suspicion about the informant's identity is correct, "then not only does it appear that FBI defendants knew about and fail[ed] to prevent the attack upon the Murrah Building, but FBI defendants may also have been responsible for training McVeigh and the others who planned and carried out the attack," Trentadue says in a document filed Monday at U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City.
The accusation was made in the lawyer's lawsuit that alleges the FBI is violating the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) by refusing to turn over documents connected to the 1995 death of his brother in an Oklahoma prison.
This latest allegation by Trentadue follows one he made last month that the FBI probably knew in advance about the bombing but did nothing to stop the attack.
The FBI and the Department of Justice, which represents the agency in the lawsuit, do not comment on pending litigation. The FBI has responded in court papers that it has followed FOIA procedures and asked U.S. District Judge Dale Kimball to dismiss the suit.
But Trentadue says the judge should reject the request and require the agency to conduct another document search. In an affidavit attached to Monday's filing, retired veteran FBI agent Emanuel Johnson Jr. says he believes the teletypes are genuine and easily retrievable from agency files.
Trentadue does not say how he obtained the teletypes, which appear to have been sent to bombing investigators. He is seeking documents on the probe because he believes it holds clues to his brother's death.
Kenneth Trentadue, 44, who had served time for bank robbery, was arrested on a parole violation and had been placed in a federal prison in Oklahoma City when guards found him dead on Aug. 21, 1995, hanging from a noose made of torn bed sheets. His family insists he was killed and contend correctional officers destroyed evidence.
Authorities have denied the allegations and several investigations ruled the death a suicide.
Jesse Trentadue believes that at one time, the FBI was investigating whether a gang that robbed banks to fund attacks on the government was connected to the bombing and suspected his brother of being one of the robbers. The lawyer thinks Kenneth was killed "when things got out of hand" during an interrogation.
McVeigh was executed in 2001. Media reports say Strassmeir returned to Germany soon after the bombing.
pmanson@sltrib.com

Well the KTOK one kinda worked..it took me to their page but had an inner sql error within the table frame which it mighta been cookie cache driven....dunno. The main point of my post was the CH4 reports in the vid tho.

Originally posted by S1LV3R4D0
Well the KTOK one kinda worked..it took me to their page but had an inner sql error within the table frame which it mighta been cookie cache driven....dunno. The main point of my post was the CH4 reports in the vid tho.

The point is, if they don't work, you might want to wonder whyl.

No wondering there, ive had a few files up and disappear over the yrs(and i dont mean i just misplaced them). had a few copied links become garbled crud. i have a pretty good idea whats up. chk ur favorites in a few days. that link, if u saved it, might just go poof, buh-bye. Scares the crap outta me what can be done to us, missing files and garbled links are the least of my probs of what is possible from them...i burn alotta dvds on reg basis just in case.

Originally posted by S1LV3R4D0
No wondering there, ive had a few files up and disappear over the yrs(and i dont mean i just misplaced them). had a few copied links become garbled crud. i have a pretty good idea whats up. chk ur favorites in a few days. that link, if u saved it, might just go poof, buh-bye. Scares the crap outta me what can be done to us, missing files and garbled links are the least of my probs of what is possible from them...i burn alotta dvds on reg basis just in case.

Like I said, the article I posted was cached. Otherwise, it would have been gone, down the memory hole.

Kewl, keep up the great work man. I agree with ya. The layers that have to be peeled back to find the truth(lost somewhere deep) is crazy. and along with the jfk truth, 911 truth and the others, i guess we wont know till the truth is allowed or forced someway. Sux to be a common man. To be a fly on the wall of some of those "meetings" would be interesting to say the least.