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Even Dr. Robert Oppenheimer, scientist[snip]
gave a strangely qualified answer to a student who asked, “Was the bomb exploded at Alamogordo during the Manhattan Project the first one to be detonated?” The answer was, “Well - yes. In modern times, of course.”
They found big stratums of clay and green glass. Apparently, archaeologists supposed, high temperature melted clay and sand and they hardened immediately afterwards. Similar stratums of green glass can also found in Nevada deserts after every nuclear explosion.
A hundred years have passed since the excavations in Mohenjo-Daro. The modern analysis showed, the fragments of the ancient town had been melted with extremely high temperature - not less than 1,500 degrees centigrade. Researchers also found the strictly outlined epicenter, where all houses were leveled. Destructions lessened towards the outskirts. Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro - their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.[my emphasis
“…one of the most important aspects of a stable society, and inherently successful, is the status-quo and the suppression of evidence….”
“…why do we hear very little regarding this site and its heavy handed implications? Simple, and that is the suppression of information for reasons I have explained earlier.”
[snip] that evidence of a burgeoning technology will largely go unnoticed by the latter group.
But society has not been stable over the long run!
A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built.
flying a swift and powerful vimana
hurled a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns
Rose in all its splendour...
a perpendicular explosion
with its billowing smoke clouds...
...the cloud of smoke
rising after its first explosion
formed into expanding round circles
like the opening of giant parasols...
..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
...The corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognizable. [snip]
Ancient verses from the Mahabharata
There is no other way to interpret this passage but as a reference to a nuclear occurrence.
To further apply credibility to the ancient texts, Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University of Chandrigarh has stated that some of the ancient texts are directions of advanced spacecraft.www.vigyanprasar.com...
And other aspects of the Mahabharata have been proven to be accurate and if some of it is true, then other assertions made by the Mahabharata cannot be immediately dismissed as false …….
Physical evidence that supports the Mahabharata
The importance of the discovery of Dwaraka[snip]
Thus the results have proved that the account in Mahabharata as to the existence of a beautiful capital city of Dwaraka of Sri Krishna was not a mere figment of imagination but it did exist.
No, it's not true.
The site is, in fact, a popular tourist destination:
There're tons of photos all over the place, which would not be possible if the site had much radiation (it'd kill the film.) It's a very lively place, with wonderful archaeological sites and very old buildings. It's a crossroads for traders and there’re also a number of important religious festivals there. It's one of the great sacred sites in India:
It does have two modern nuclear power plants, and is an important source for limestone and copper:
I'm not sure what the original story for this (frequently debunked) piece is, OR what the writers' motive is. It appears to be fairly modern and may be related to an inter-class war (blaming the Brahmans) www.dalitstan.org... -- given the heavy (and wrong) overtones of the piece. Or it might have been part of a screed against atomic power in its original form.
Interestingly enough, "The Mahabharata text" actually doesn't exist. You can go read The Mahabharata for yourself.
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
[snip]but they have no bearing on this debate.
Dhvanta Pramapaka Yantra of Maharsi Bhardvaja (Spectrometer/Monochromator) has been described in Amsu Bodhini[snip]
The text of Amsu Bodhini further describes and enumerates various radiations(tama) with their symbolic names and their respective measures expressed in terms of an Ancient appropriate unit of angle kaksya (1 kaksya = 10 to the fourth decimal radian) My emphasis in bold
An intelligent perusal of these ancient Yogic texts in original will bring a striking revelation to any student of neurology that the ancient Indians knew as much of neurology as we know today, and in the area of psychology they were far ahead of modern science
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
Don't you think that if there were a high-radiation area it would've been the subject of literally thousands of articles in Scientific American.......
1 a : an outward sign : INDICATION b : something that furnishes proof [snip]
2 : one who bears witness[snip]
Two heavyweights going at it here! What a pleasure to read!
I was undecided until Off_The_Street's closing post with his emphasis on the words "far in advance of today's".
memoryshock made a good arguement
An interesting debate, both sides presenting good arguments and in particular brilliant counter arguments which I think really made this debate a treasure to read.
Fascinating topic, and well-presented by both sides. Memoryshock's thesis on societies and their control and perception of technology was an excellent foundation for a difficult position and a brilliant debate tactic in its own right. Off_the_Street immediately countered, insisting on evidence of widespread technological adaptation, and so began an excellent debate. Ultimately, I felt Off_The_Street scored the win by making the point that Memoryshock had not established that there is sufficient evidence to demonstrate that ancient societies had technology far in advance of today's, and that was, after all, the topic of the debate.
This is a difficult topic for the one defending the proposition. MemoryShock argued the side he was given well, but questionable sources and evidence showed how he was struggling with the topic. Off_The_Street handled his topic very well, was clear and concise in his arguments and followed through, driving his point home.