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reply posted on 17-10-2005 @ 04:32 AM by American Mad Man
Originally posted by Manincloak
True....how can that be possible.

Russia has just as many nuclear subs and almost as many nukes, as well as all sorts of nuclear facilities, yet their nuclear related spending is much much much smaller.

In fact the pentagon gives Russia a couple of billion a year to make sure they don't sell nukes to terrorists, is that not right?


Russia does not have as many nuclear subs as the US. They have 39 total subs in service according to
globalsecurity.rg.

The US has more then 39 Los Angeles attack subs alone, not to mention our ballistic missle fleet and 3 Sea Wolf attack subs.

This of course doesn't include the US aircraft carriers, each of which have TWO nuclear reactors.

The US also has nearly FIVE TIMES the number of nuclear warheads as Russia. As this indicates, Russia can not support more then 3,500 nuclear warheads according to START2, and more realistically can not afford to keep more then 2,500 nuclear warheads. The US of course has over 10,000.

Also take into account the VASTLY superior maintenance quality of US weapons, in stark contrast to the suspect (at best) Russian maintenance.


reply posted on 17-10-2005 @ 06:50 AM by American Mad Man
Originally posted by ufia
Number 44 is a classic!


44. Number of U.S. nuclear bombs lost in accidents and never recovered: 11

I don't know if this number is fact or fiction, but this is dumb beyond belief. A country that lost 11 friggin nuclear bombs is not in position to call other countries like Iran evil doers.


Excuse me? There are a lot of things wrong about losing a nuclear weapon, but being evil is not one of them.


Or maybe they kept secret its recovery, that would explain it, or they managed to get the bombs stolen or something? Losing bombs of that magnitude is surreal. *Slap self in face to get out this silly dream*


Well, there is actually only one reason to worry, and it isn't the weapons falling into the wrong hands. Nuclear weapons require a great deal of maintenance, technical know how, etc to be of any use to someone who happend to come across it or even aquire it.

In addition, even assuming you could theoretically upkeep it and knew all the security messures to set it off, you would still need to transport it. These bombs were all lost a few decades ago - most in the 50's if my memory serves me right - and thus, they were pretty damn big, and weighed in the 500+ pound range.

More over, most of these weapons were lost in deep water, hence why they were unrecoverable. Thus, it would be virtually impossable for someone without the US Navys extensive resources to recover.

The real problem here is there was a single bomb lost in North Carolina somewhere (again, if my memory serves me it was in a swamp). Well, it's been about 50 years, and that bomb could be rusting. Hence, the water could become contaminated with radioactive material.

BTW, if you think that 11 is bad, you may cry to know how many times that number Russia lost in the 90's alone.


reply posted on 17-10-2005 @ 08:00 AM by R988
Some more info on lost nukes
www.lutins.org...
www.cdi.org...

lot more stuff out there if you look, I remember being a bit shocked when I first heard about some of this stuff a few years ago, but accidents do happen, and if something can go wrong, it usually does.

www.marginalrevolution.com...
Concerning yesterday's post on missing nuclear weapons Gerald Hanner wrote to say:

I once flew with one of the people involved in that lost nuke in South Carolina. It was being carried by a B-47, and they were on their way to a forward-deployed base in England to pull alert. For takeoff the weapon (no one in the business calls them "bombs") is not pinned into the release mechanism so that it could be released if there was an aircraft emergency after takeoff. Since the "pit" was not installed in the weapon there was no chance of a nuclear detonation. In any case, after a safe takeoff the copilot went back to the bomb bay to place a safety pin in the release mechanism; the pin would not go into the slot it was designed for. After calling back to their departure base to discuss the problem, someone on the ground suggested jiggling the release mechanism a bit to properly align the parts. The copilot did. The next transmission from the aircraft was, "#! We dropped it!" The weapon released and went right through the closed bomb bay door; those were heavy dudes back then. You've read the rest of the story.

Dave Walker of Lockjaw's Lair wrote to report on a still-missing nuclear weapon in North Carolina.

It was just after midnight on January 24, 1961. A B52G Stratofortress (one of the greatest airplanes ever to cast a shadow on this fine Earth, IMHO) suffered structural failure in its right wing near Faro, NC. The plane carried two MK39 hydrogen bombs.

The two weapons were jettisoned from the plane. One parachuted safely to the ground, receiving minimal damage. The other plummetted to Earth, partially breaking up on impact. Part of the weapon, however, was never found. The lost portion was the uranium-containing part, as well. Crews dug to a depth of 50 feet in the boggy field, but could never retrieve the warhead. To this day, the lost weapon continues to lie in this field.

Radioactivity tests have come up negative, and the Air Force has purchased an easement on the property to prevent anyone digging. If you'd like to read further on the case of the lost warhead, check out this link.




reply posted on 17-10-2005 @ 10:01 AM by rogue1


www.lutins.org...


reply posted on 21-10-2005 @ 02:11 AM by NWguy83
Originally posted by American Mad Man
The US also has nearly FIVE TIMES the number of nuclear warheads as Russia. As
this indicates, Russia can not support more then 3,500 nuclear warheads according to START2, and more realistically can not afford to keep more then 2,500 nuclear warheads. The US of course has over 10,000.


Wow what are you smoking buddy, cause I want some!


Russia - 8,500 plus 11,000 in non-operational stockpiles

U.S - 7,000 plus 3,000 in reserve

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