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California astronomers are broadening the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) with a new experiment to look for powerful light pulses beamed our way from other star systems. Scientists from the University of California's Lick Observatory, the SETI Institute (Mountain View, California), UC Santa Cruz, and UC Berkeley are coupling the Lick Observatory's 40-inch Nickel Telescope with a new pulse-detection system capable of finding laser beacons from civilizations many light-years distant. Unlike other optical SETI searches, this new experiment is largely immune to false alarms that slow the reconnaissance of target stars.
Most of the SETI programs in existence today, including those at UC Berkeley build large computers that analyze that data from the telescope in real time. None of these computers look very deeply at the data for weak signals nor do they look for a large class of signal types (which we'll discuss further on...) The reason for this is because they are limited by the amount of computer power available for data analysis. To tease out the weakest signals, a great amount of computer power is necessary. It would take a monstrous supercomputer to get the job done. SETI programs could never afford to build or buy that computing power. There is a trade-off that they can make. Rather than a huge computer to do the job, they could use a smaller computer but just take longer to do it. But then there would be lots of data piling up. What if they used LOTS of small computers, all working simultaneously on different parts of the analysis? Where can the SETI team possibly find thousands of computers they'd need to analyze the data continuously streaming from Arecibo?
The ATA will consist of approximately 350 6.1-meter offset Gregorian dishes arrayed at the Hat Creek Radio Observatory site. Given the number of antennas and large size of the primary beam (approximately 2.5 degrees at 21 cm wavelength), this array will have an unprecedented amount of flexibility in observing. Several individual users may simultaneously use the array to observe a different part of the sky at an independent frequency, or image the sky at one or more frequencies.
Until now, SETI researchers have not been very interested in broadcasting. The reasons for this are several. To begin with, we are a technologically young civilization. We have had radio for a hundred years or so, but there are surely societies that have possessed the ability to send high-powered signals for tens of thousands, if not millions, of years. Consequently, since we are the new kids on the technology block, it may behoove us to listen first. Some have also expressed concern that broadcasting might be dangerous, literally calling attention to our existence. However, the evidence of technologically sophisticated life on Earth is already on its way into space, and there is no bringing back these transmissions.
Sociological studies suggest that announcement of a signal would lead to confusion and excitement, with a desire by individuals to "know more", but little panic or hysteria. While some religious groups are expected to reject the idea that we are not alone, most would not, and some would embrace the discovery as reinforcing their own beliefs.
Any individual, public or private research institution, or governmental agency that believes it has detected a signal from or other evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence (the discoverer) should seek to verify that the most plausible explanation for the evidence is the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence rather than some other natural phenomenon or anthropogenic phenomenon before making any public announcement. If the evidence cannot be confirmed as indicating the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence, the discoverer may disseminate the information as appropriate to the discovery of any unknown phenomenon.
Originally posted by pompano
Also keep in mind that SETI has only been able to scan less that 1% of the sky with current technology.
Imagine if they were able to scan every known star system in the universe, if they did not find anything then that would be truly amazing. But of course there is other life in the universe you would have to be a butt head to think otherwise.
Originally posted by Memorialday1999
Originally posted by pompano
Also keep in mind that SETI has only been able to scan less that 1% of the sky with current technology.
Imagine if they were able to scan every known star system in the universe, if they did not find anything then that would be truly amazing. But of course there is other life in the universe you would have to be a butt head to think otherwise.
Opinions are just that, opinions, not facts. To accuse someone of being a "butthead" just because they have doubts as to whether aliens exist is somewhat rude and immature and just not necessary. Yes there may be some type of plant/animal life yet to be found but to jump to aliens flying to earth to visit is still a bit much for me to swallow yet. But as I previously said, my mind is not closed, it just still needs some convincing. Have a nice day.
Anyone know how long it would take radio waves to reach the Star that is closest to Earth? I do not off the top of my head but it would be a useful fact in this discussion.
Originally posted by SpookyVince
Why? Simply put... because it is very unlikely that alien intelligences/technologies will be listening to OUR radios, and furthemore, if they get the signal, they still need to put it back into somthing that makes sense for them...
IMHO very unlikely scenario, though I'm running SETI@Home on my puter for more than 2 years now...
I'm a skeptic, but I would assume they would use light to transfer data. Or as many people believe, they're telepathic, who needs a radio?