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Originally posted by Muaddib
Humm, so the US and Russia are too much alike?... Really?.... How much aid has Russia been sending to the US Skadi? and of course, the US has been puting our own people on prison camps and killing them by the hundreds of thousands to the millions because the government just wanted to....
Right skadi, where do you get your information from?
Oh yeah, we also killed millions of Indians too, and infected em with small pox.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
No, weve just been experimenting on them, injecting them with radiation, exposing them to mind control projects, and gassing cities with biologicals to see what they do. Oh yeah, we also killed millions of Indians too, and infected em with small pox. And we imprison millions for the only crime of smoking a plant that is considered a medicinal shrub elsewhere.
See, we are not so different after all!
Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
No, weve just been experimenting on them, injecting them with radiation, exposing them to mind control projects, and gassing cities with biologicals to see what they do. Oh yeah, we also killed millions of Indians too, and infected em with small pox. And we imprison millions for the only crime of smoking a plant that is considered a medicinal shrub elsewhere.
See, we are not so different after all!
Riiight, and you don't happen to be on that same medicinal shrub, as you call it, right now are you?
Hey, you can always go to China and see what they do to people that use, grow and sell that "medicinal shrub."
Or, how about Australia?
[edit on 3-6-2005 by Muaddib]
Originally posted by Muaddib
You are partly right Skadi, that happened about 200 years ago, but you are also exagerating. Are we having those same policies towards the native americans at this moment?....
Should we perhaps then put blame on Spain, France, and every other country that has done these same things, even on their own people about 40-300 years ago? 40 years ago, in the case of Spain.
How much has Russia changed Skadi?....and for what reason exactly where millions of Russians sent to either gulags or killed? Do you even know? They were not smoking marijuana, or braking any other laws, nor trying to violently overthrow the Russian government skadi...
My questions still stand Skadi...how much aid has Russia sent to the US?....
[edit on 4-6-2005 by Muaddib]
Originally posted by ncbrian211
46% of 6,000 callers believed the U.S.A. to be Russia's adversary, 54% said they were allies. Though a majority believe to be allies, the percentage was still a surprise to the American government.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
How much aid has Russia sent us? None. That would be like giving welfare money to Bill Gates. We do not need their aid, we dont need anyones aid. last time I checked, we were pretty filthy stinking rich as a country. Rich countries dont need handouts.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
200 years ago? We were kicking the # out of the Indians until the turn of the last century, and herding them like cattle onto #ty reservations.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Why did Russia send millions to gulags? I dunno. Why did the US goverment spread toxins and germs into American cities, test chemicals on its soldiers, perform mind control experiments of the unwitting, test nukes in Nevada and knowingly expose people who lived downwind to deadly radiation? Maybe for the same reasons?
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
While were on the subject, lets talk about recent events. Until 40 years ago, blacks were treated like dirt. Made to attend different schools. Drink from different fountains. Couldnt even stay in nice hotels. So its not ancient history, tis quite recent.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Stop throwing stones, both we and the Russians live in houses of glass.
Originally posted by Hajduk
Russian policies are in fact very similar to American.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
As I said before, this is hardly a conspiracy secret, its a well known fact that the US government has showed a disturbing disregard for the lives of its citizens.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Just ask these nice folks in Nevada how they feel about being unwitting guina pigs in US government nuke experiments.
www.downwinders.org...
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Anyone with any sense and some time to look will find a plethora of reliable information on the wonderful things this government has done in the name of national security.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Now, lets talk about the depression. Well, I got some news for you. The depression wasn't limited to the US, believe it or not, it was WORLDWIDE.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
As for the crash in 87, please tell me you jest. A stock market crash? last time I checked, while it certainly was not a nice thing, it was hardly a crisis in which we needed to be bailed out from.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
As for the genocides, the racial abuses, ect, no, we dont do that anymore. So? The Russians arent herding millions of Ukranians into slave camps anymore either. Stalin is dead, the purges are over. We both have a history of doing bad things to large groups of people.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
And i could care less what the Europeans did 400 years ago, let them sweat it out if they so wish. I am simply pointing out that the US and Russia have more things in common than they dont.
4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
And by the way, the Russians aided us during the Civil War. When the European aristocrats and bankers wanted to jump in, intervene, and tear this country up for themselves, it was the threat of Russian blocades on their shipping if they interfered that kept them from meddling in our own private hell. Had they not, thinsg would have turned out VERY different.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Oh yeah, and Russia was kind enough to sell us our largest oil field, Alaska, at the bargain price of two cents an acre. So...........yes, Russia has come to our aid in the past, thank you kindly.
Most Russians seem not to have much knowledge on the United States and its policies. So today there are Americans trying to fill the gap and educate the people of Russia about the United States of America.
Most Russians are living below the poverty line, some Russians have made vast fortunes by being corrupt . I think they view the USA as a place to go to for a better life , most Russian women want to go there. To me i think that Russia is ruled by Gangsters now and that they will never know what Democracy is.
for what reason exactly where millions of Russians sent to either gulags or killed
That I know about there are still conflicts (war) with former Russian states, and Russia is still fighting and committing attrocities against other former Russian people.
There aren't many negative things that can be said of the Russian people, the problem is the government anti-american propaganda, which still exists today, and many Russian people not knowing any better, believe them.
The Russian government still tells the people that the blame is on the US for the state that Russia is in now, they have always blamed the US for the conditions they have been in since the communists took power.
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That I know about there are still conflicts (war) with former Russian states, and Russia is still fighting and committing attrocities against other former Russian people
Russia is still fighting and committing attrocities against other former Russian people
former Russian people
Originally posted by ExD
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If you think that such viewpoint created by propaganda(lol, maybe you'll show me where you see propaganda in russian media), you are wrong, it's our mentality.
Well I tried to be sincere above.
Published on Tuesday, December 18, 2001 in the Washington Post
Putin Warns U.S. Against Expanding War to Iraq
MOSCOW -- President Vladimir Putin cautioned the United States against attacking Iraq once the war in Afghanistan draws to close, saying in an interview published today that he expects to be consulted before the U.S. anti-terrorism campaign is expanded to other nations.
Although Bush administration officials have openly discussed the possibility that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein may be the next target in the war on terrorism, Putin said he has seen no evidence that Iraq finances terrorists. He also said in the interview, with London's Financial Times newspaper, he does not believe that previous U.S. strikes have destroyed any sites where Iraq might be producing nuclear or biological weapons.
Speaking about the fight against international terrorism, Putin said a defeat of the United States in its war on international terrorism is not in the interests of Russia, "because we are partners with the United States in this fight."
Putin reiterated Russia's criticism of the United States over the war in Iraq, saying the war was unfair and unjustified because it was not sanctioned by the United Nations Security Council.
"Iraq is a different matter. There were no international terrorists in Iraq under the (Saddam) Hussein regime," the Russian president stressed.
Putin says Iraq planned US attack
Russian President Vladimir Putin says that after the 9/11 attacks Moscow warned Washington that Saddam Hussein was planning attacks on the US.
After the events of 11 September 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, Russian special services several times received such information and passed it on to their American colleagues," he told reporters.
He said the information received by Russian intelligence suggested Iraq was planning attacks in the United States, "and beyond its borders on American military and civilian targets".
Originally posted by subz
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"Russophobe" hello my new favourite word.
I'll also make up "Sinophobe" to go with it