Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
To say that the "Religious Right" came upon the stage 40 years ago is to ignore the rest of American history, which shows all but theose who ignore
what they do not like that Christianity has always been an important factor in this nation's course.
AS a matter of fact, you'll notice that it is the opposite that is the fact, that for about the last 40 years, there has been a concerted effort to
drive any acknowledgement of God or His clear, concrete and unwaivering moral principles in the nation or as an anchor to insure the country is going
in the right direction.
You are perpetuating the New Thought history, Rant.
Why is it that they are pushing for this?
Read my signature.
Why is it still a motivation, even though we are told that Soviet Communism is dead? Because, if we forget God, we will worship the All Mighty
Government. If we dwell in our own perversions, pursue immorality ratehr than concentrate on building and bettering, we'll not notice the slow and
inevitable takeover and control of the invisible masters.
But if we can't distinguish between a pastor and a politician, aren't we also worshiping the "All Mighty Government"?
There has to be a clear line drawn between government and religion. As Rant pointed out, it is dangerous to marry the two. Religion is a medium that
requires blind faith and government is a method teeming with opportunistic politicians pushing agendas that cater to hidden corporate sugardaddies.
Put them together, and the flock is blindly having faith in politicians that phone in their psalms from corporate jets on loan.
Just look at Kansas. Good, Christian Republicans campaigned on promises to solve the moral ills that plagued the state, such as abortion,
pornography, and homosexuality and overwhelmingly cleaned the clocks of the incumbent Democrats. Once in office, nothing was done about rampant
"immorality", but these Republicans sold the souls of the blue-collar workers to big business and the result was poverty, closed factories and fewer
But the downfall of Kansas, and other similar blue-collar areas that have embraced Christian Conservatism can't be because of economic reasons,
right? It must be the "concerted effort to drive any acknowledgement of God or His clear, concrete and unwaivering moral principles in (from?) the
There are myriad concrete explanations rooted in economics that single out poverty--not homosexuality, Grand Theft Auto, Janet Jackson's breast, or
birth control pills, as the reason for increased crime and living on the margins of society, however, this seems to be lost on the fundamentalist
What also seems to be lost on these Christians is that the population of this country is still overwhelmingly Christian. The majority of our elected
officials are Christian. Jesus Christ is still omnipresent in society, the media, and commerce.
Even most Americans who aren't Christian believe in God and "His clear, concrete and unwaivering moral principles."
So, who are the "they" you are blaming for this supposed waivering of moral principles? Is it the 15% minority of the country that doesn't believe
in God? Are Scientologists and Athiests responsible for the "downfall of America"?
I doubt it. It's Christians. Christian teenagers that have premarital sex. Christians who get divorced. Christians who shoot one another.
Christians who have abortions. Christians who voted for John Kerry.
Heck--even Laura Bush watches Desperate Housewives and makes off color jokes about her husband fondling horses.
If the majority of the sinners are Christian, why would you think that more Jesus Christ in government is going to move the country to a higher
Oh, it's those
Christians. The bad ones that Jake1997 mentioned. Heathens dressed in Christian clothing....
Wait. I've heard this one before.
Back when our country was being founded, Christians thought Catholics were heathens. Catholicism was prohibited in all but two colonies and and John
Jay, future chief justice of the Supreme Court, felt that Catholics should be denied civil rights and the right to own property unless they denounced
the Pope. Presbyterians and Quakers had an ongoing rivalry. And members of the United Church of Christ thought everyone else was a
heathen--especially Baptists and Quakers.
Its safe to say that there was more than a bit of healthy friction between all of the Christian sects. Members finger-pointed and called each other
immoral, illogical, and harbingers for the downfall of the New World.
But they weren't, really, and the differences between each sect pretty much boiled down to historical references and semantics. We can look back
now and lump them all together under a Christian umbrella, but back then, there were even sects of Baptists that wouldn't stand in the same room as
It was in that environment, the Founding Fathers institutionalized religious freedom and separated church and state. This doesn't mean that they
were institutionalizing Godlessness either. It meant that religion is a personal freedom not meant to be institutionalized.
Does this always work? Obviously not. With the United States being so overwhelmingly Christian, religion has infiltrated places where it shouldn't
be. Public schools, courtrooms, faith-based laws--this needs to be corrected from time to time.
To say that these corrections are somehow forcing Christians to be unable to practice their religion is a joke. No one
is forcing Christians
to engage in immoral behavior. Perhaps Christians should focus less on preserving statues of the Ten Commandments and the evils of evolution and
look into the reasons why the American Christian majority isn't doing so well... perhaps examining poverty, factory closings, and loss of jobs would
be a good place to start....