300 proofs to GODs existance

www.truthbeknown.com...

www.foreverseeking.com...

www.mystae.com...

www.cfpf.org.uk...

And several other's.....

To be honest decided not to go through all the pages in Google beyond the first two, so while the first is from their the others are from Webferret.

There is a big difference between the two it is not a misspelling of the word.

Well thanks for paying any notice to my discovery that quexalcote is Jesus.

The only problem is the claim that quexalcote existed around 580 BC, which is total bunk, as how the hell does a people who can't write, manage to record the dates of their "savior" it could have been 1300 AD for all the stupid historians know.

I need actual hard proof that quexalcote existed in ANY time, before I believe that bunk.

TOLTEC

I am still waiting for a reference to Quexalcote that is not a reference from Graves' book. All references to Quexalcote are from Graves. Is Quexalcote = Quetzalcoatl? Also have you any thoughts on this: I say Sakya Buddha died of old age at 80, many skeptic web sites claim "Sakya Buddha was crucified as a sin atonement"?

[Edited on 6-8-2003 by jagdflieger]

As far as Quexalcote he did live around 580 BC, as far as Quetzalcoatl he was the first emperor of the Toltec empire which means he lived at around the same time
Jesus was alive. As far as references did you note what MA said in respect to Codex Vaticanus as well as the link you provided. All references with respect to Quexalcote are not from just one person I myself am aware as well of the issue.


www.infidels.org...

Which was right below your comment "sdfkljde Watch Jakarta" in a post you prepared for this thread?

One question where is your documentation that suports your claim regarding Buddha?

Freemason you sound like a skeptic

Buddha died at the age of 80 in Kusinara, which is now modern day Uttar Pradesh, in India. He died lying in-between two sala trees, with his head to the north, and a content smile on his face.

The death of The Buddha is very well documented, and I assure you he was not crucified.

Also brought up was the "Black Buddha" being crucified. I myself am not able to shed any light on this Buddha, as I have never heard of him. Perhaps he is mentioned in the Mahayana teachings (I follow the Theravada teachings), but I myself do not know anything about him under that name. Is he known by any other names? I may have heard of him under a different name...

Also Jagd, was right. Many Buddhist literature is very commonly misinterpretted. What makes this even more sadder is, most of these misinterpretations come from people who have "PHD's" in the subject of Buddhism. I myself do not read many western books on buddhism, as I find them to usually be very inaccurate. I usually go to my local temple to do my readings.

Also contrary to popular belief... buddhist are infact NOT reincarnated. Reincarnation is a Hindu term, and implies the existance of a "soul". The proper term for a buddhist "reincarnation" would be rebirth/reborn. Yes, I am aware that they are simply a matter of words, but the words DO mean different things. Somewhat like the words "evacuate", and "exit". Yes they both mean to "leave an area", but they are also both very different...

Hey oui never said the Black Buddha was crucified (although some might consider that with respect to his family after the opuim wars at least symbolically that was the case).

With respect to this conversation Jag seems to be insisting that it has been claimed upon some site that the Sakya Buddha was crucified. Although a review of what he has posted to date does not present the site he states made that claim for our assessment.

Am still waiting for a response Jag?????

Quote from web page: www.infidels.org...

Note: the scholarship of Kersey Graves has been questioned by numerous theists
and nontheists alike; the inclusion of his The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors
in the Secular Web's Historical Library does not constitute endorsement by
Internet Infidels, Inc. This document was included for historical purposes;
readers should be extremely cautious in trusting anything in this book.

Quote from:
www.geocities.com...
An ancient work entitled Codex Vaticanus, gives an account of the immaculate conception of Quexalcote [Quetzalcoatl], the Mexican Savior.

Apparently this web site says Quexalcote = Quetzalcoatl which is what I conjectured in a previous post (this is because the only information on Quexalcote comes from Graves or from people qouting Graves). Do a google search on "Quexalcote" and you get 142 hits - all are either copies of Graves such as the web page listed above or a just mentions of the name. However do a google search on "Quetzalcoatl". you get 4000+ hits. Notice even the atheists questions Graves work. I say Quexalcote = Quetzalcoatl, web site above says Quexalcote = Quetzalcoatl, MaskedAvatar said Quexalcote = Quetzalcoatl. But Toltec says Quexalcote Quetzalcoatl. I still cannot find Quexalcote referenced by any literature except Kersey Graves and those who qoute him.

Now how can a Mexican god be listed in the Codex Vaticanus which dates from the 4th century?
www.bibleandscience.com... Vaticanus

Here is a buddhist web site - heaps of information here:
www.buddhanet.net...

Oh ok. I was under the impression that you were saying the "Black Buddha" was crucified. I did not understand what you wrote all the way, and apologize.

To be honost though. I believe I have seen the website that Jagd is talking about. I saw the site, and was very turned off by it, due to that false claim, as well as some others. I will actively search for that website right now. Hopefully I can find it. I know that the url was in one of the threads here on the message board as a matter of fact. Its simply a matter of finding that thread again.

Have a nice evening.

Well Jag its apparent that you are a skeptic

Thank oui have actually never heard such a claim myself but would actually like to see the website Jag has sugested but has not yet to date provided

Toltec - Would you care to list the claims I have made?

If you believe quexalcote is going to come back to save you you will have a long wait.

Hello friends,

How are you all? I hope you all are having a very good day/evening/afternoon. I'd just like to say, that after a very lengthy search, I was able to find the website once again that says Buddha was crucified. The site even goes as far to claim that the buddha went to hell 3 days to suffer. Anyhow, this is the link.

Peace, and Love.

[Edited on 7-8-2003 by oui]

Here is the problem Jag No real evidence exist to suggest that any thing we are discussing has any validity beyond our individual faith.

Live with it.

But would in all reality like to see the site you keep claiming is real??????

Really Jag who killed OJ's wife were you their?

My faith includes the fact that Quexalcote existed, to be honest in respect to what you feel guess what I think?

Honestly Jag did you really think I would change my mind??

Nah

To say the very least this is not Toltec's Discussion Forum where only Toltec's mindset is discussed. I do not go around presenting the Nagual way neither do I offer it as a conclusion. For the record I am skeptical of your mindset and have made that clear a very long time ago.

And???

Here is a web site provided BY TOTLEC (see previous postings) which claims that Sakya Buddha was crucified (look under the heading Buddha):

www.truthbeknown.com...

Originally posted by oui
Hello friends,

How are you all? I hope you all are having a very good day/evening/afternoon. I'd just like to say, that after a very lengthy search, I was able to find the website once again that says Buddha was crucified. The site even goes as far to claim that the buddha went to hell 3 days to suffer. Anyhow, this is the link.

Peace, and Love.

[Edited on 7-8-2003 by oui]

Hardly a credible site. Pagans explaining away Jesus by saying he was someone else many times before......typical nonsense to deny Jesus.

Jag to be honest these are not the reference I used that they link to others had nothing to do with me.

For the record Jag cannot call you the King of Semantics as that role has been already applied but it is obvious you are relatable.

Take that anyway you might consider I may be thinking

See link....

members.cox.net...



Any thoughts?

[Edited on 7-8-2003 by Toltec]

Toltec
Well I would like to see a literay reference to Quexalcote other than Kersey Graves and atheist web sites which quote Kersey Graves. If you want to quote the Codex Vaticanus, please post a web site that has the actual textual quotes from Codex Vaticanus because my information states that the Codex Vaticanus dates from the 4th century. Also, Graves states "Quexalcote is represented, in the painting of Codex Borgianus, as nailed to the cross".

And if you reference the image in the Codex Borgianus:
www.prs.org...
We see The Crucifixion of Quetzalcoatl



Although the reader is left to make up his own mind if this looks like a crucifixion but the image definitely represents who we know as Quetzalcoatl.

I have actually seen that image of him Crucified but with respect to you recent response/accusation would suggest you look it up yourself

Originally posted by Toltec
Jag to be honest these are not the reference I used that they link to others had nothing to do with me.

For the record Jag cannot call you the King of Semantics as that role has been already applied but it is obvious you are relatable.

Take that anyway you might consider I may be thinking

See link....

members.cox.net...



Any thoughts?

[Edited on 7-8-2003 by Toltec]

Jesus never said to revel in His birth but to understand His death for us in terms of salvation.

Do you put that much faith in calendars?

Toltec what is my accusation? Please elaborate.