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Would You Risk Your Life to Expose the Truth?

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posted on May, 2 2005 @ 09:07 PM
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Thank you all for being honest here..
We are asking 'others' to perhaps die for disclosure..
After thinking on this, I would take the Art Bell method.
He has materials from more than one ufo, and who knows what else in his posession, but his wife and son have been through too much for him to 'come out"
If it was only MY life, ok, but they are/would not be content with just one body..thoughts?




posted on May, 2 2005 @ 09:16 PM
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This guy www.theyfly.com... claims to have factual irreputal truth, yet everyone blows him off like a loon.

Almost 60 years now and noone can find tangible evidence? Kinda like the bible, 6,000 years and only beleif is the asnwer.



posted on May, 2 2005 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by MauiStacey
This guy www.theyfly.com... claims to have factual irreputal truth, yet everyone blows him off like a loon.

Almost 60 years now and noone can find tangible evidence? Kinda like the bible, 6,000 years and only beleif is the asnwer.



Yes, Meier has been seen as a kook for many years now.
He claims to have so much pull with the brethren, he could arrange for them to land on the WH lawn according to him. Nobody can EVER convince me they are not real and are 'with us',,,NEVER~~ Guess this is Belief?
IMO, I would not talk about anything to the press, as they are in cahoots with all the major governments, but Switzerland is supposed to be neutral?
Thank you for that link....


[edit on 2-5-2005 by siriuslyone]



posted on May, 4 2005 @ 02:33 AM
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Here is a little truth for you all, hopefully not with endagering my life (joke)

“What you are looking for is what is looking”
--St. Frances of Assisi--

My purpose in this thread is the same purpose we all have. To learn what I don’t know, and teach that which I do know. Walk your path, ask questions, and seek answers. Embark on a journey to the center of your consciousness, strive to understand yourself, and everything else may very well fall into place.

I believe the smarter you are the smarter humanity is. I believe the smarter humanity is the smarter I can be, the greater our potential will be. I know the key to the truth is laying aside our prejudices, our objections, and the precepts we have accepted as truth. History has proven that the majority of the precepts we accept as truth are the majority of the time, incorrect. The precept that the world is flat, or that the entire universe revolves around the Earth, both proved to be untrue.

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.”
--Albert Einstein--

“To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.”
--Stephen W. Hawking--

Have you ever contemplated what instincts truly are, if not the “cliff notes” of the accumulated knowledge which stems from the experiences of the consciousnesses that have preceded you? Are instincts not inherent knowledge? And if they are inherent knowledge from the consciousnesses that have preceded us, somewhere within us may be the inherent knowledge of the singularity, the consciousness from which we all originate. I don’t need to ponder how much of that inherent knowledge is dormant, hidden, tucked away in many, because they need to influence the world to know they exist. Curious enough, the observer is intangible. How real can reality be when the self that is determining it to be real is itself intangible?

Random Thought: I wonder if it is possible to create something so beautiful that no one would desire to destroy it.

Have you ever given much thought to how much limitation exists within your mind and how it perceives the world around you? For instance I guess what I am wanting you to ask yourself is: Is the way the world feels to me and the way it truly is the same? You as the observer are only capable of perceiving what you capable of understanding. We learn through association, it’s how our brain functions. If there is no pre-existing knowledge your brain is capable of associating with something already known to it, you simply won’t see it.

Your brain takes in 400,000,000,000 bits of information a second, yet you are only consciously aware of 2,000 bits of information. Your brain simply does not integrate it at a conscious level. We are really mostly only aware of three things: Our environment, our bodies, and time, and perhaps all of these are relative.

Random Thought: Choose between your opinion and truth. Try to separate all you take for granted as truth and disregard it. Try to separate your opinion. Stop observing the world from the portion of your brain that supports the self, the identity, and observe it for awhile with no prejudice, no judgment, devoid of your self. There may be more irony in that statement than you first realize.

SPIRITUALITY vs. RELIGION: Here are some inspirational quotes:
“To know that we know what we know, and to know that we do not know what we so not know, that is true knowledge.”
--Copernicus—

“If those who lead you say to you, “See, the Kingdom is in the sky,” then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, “It is in the sea,” then the fish will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you will dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty.”
--Yehoshua Ben Yosef (AKA: Jesus)-- (All the sayings of Jesus gathered from ancient sources and compiled into a single volume for the first time. Compiled by Ricky Alan Mayotte) From “The Complete Jesus”. (Page 71)

“Know thyself”
--Socrates--

“It gives me a deep comforting sense that things seen are temporal and things unseen are eternal.”
--Helen Keller--

“The spirit down here in man and the spirit up there in the sun, in reality are only one spirit, and there is no other one.”
--The Upanishads--

“Cease from the practice based on intellectual understanding, pursuing words, and following after speech, and learn the backward step that turns your light inward to illuminate your self. Body and mind of themselves will drop away, and your original face will be manifest.”
--Dogen--

“Although each of us obviously inhabits a separate physical body, the laboratory data from a hundred years of parapsychology research strongly indicate that there is no separation in consciousness.”
--Russell Targ--

“Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes.”
--Carl Gustav Jung--

“The truth dazzles gradually, or else the world would be blind.”
--Emily Dickenson--

“Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but usually manages to pick himself up, walk over or around it, and carry on.”
--Winston Churchill--

“Everything you see has its roots in the unseen world. The forms may change, yet the essence remains the same. Every wonderful sight will vanish; every sweet word will fade, but do not be disheartened, the source they come from is eternal, growing, branching out, giving new life and new joy. Why do you weep? The source is within you and this whole world is springing up from it.”
--Jelauddin Rumi--

“Knowledge is structured in consciousness. The process of education takes place in the field of consciousness; the prerequisite to complete education is therefore the FULL development of consciousness – Enlightenment. Knowledge is not the basis of enlightenment, enlightenment is the basis of knowledge.”
--Maharishi Mahesh Yogi--

“That which the dream shows is the shadow of such wisdom as exists in man, even if during his waking state he may know nothing about it… We so not know it because we are fooling away our time with outward and perishing things, and are asleep in regard to that which is real within ourselves.”
--Philipus Aureolus Paracelsus--

“….Perhaps there is a pattern set up in the heavens for one who desires to see it, and having seen it, to find one in himself.”
--Plato—

“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of force …. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.”
--Max Planck, Nobel Prize-winning Father of Quantum Theory--

“The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.”
--Albert Einstein--

“To put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must first put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must cultivate our personal life; and to cultivate our personal life, we must first set our hearts right.”
--Confucius--
“The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.”
--Winston Churchill--

“We shall not cease from exploration. And the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.”
--T. S. Eliot--

“Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assaults of thoughts on the unthinking.”
--John Maynard Keynes--

“Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion.”
--Democritus of Abdera—

“I do not feel obliged to believe that the same GOD who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.”
--Galileo Galilei--

“What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters to what lies within us.”
--Ralph Waldo Emerson--

“You can not see anything that you do not first contemplate as reality.”
--Ramtha--

Are you ever intrigued by the fact that there are similarities between all religions that formed in different geographic, different times, and different cultures and races that seem to contain the same message. Perhaps the message was always more important than the messenger. Perhaps the deliverer of the message was still confined by the limitations perceived of one’s self within the messenger.

If GOD is GOD, then GOD is omnipotent, and aware of the dealings of every conscious. If you define consciousness as being able to interpret its environment, react to its environment, affect its environment, and you still operate with the precept that GOD is omnipotent, then GOD is within you, and aware of the dealings of each and every one of your individual cells. Sub-thought: “OUR CELLS”, do we own our cells, or do our cells own us? Who is behind the driver’s seat in your mind when you react to your emotions, or respond to them?

Perhaps we are not fully conscious of what’s going on because our subconscious judges our actions and intentions and it is ourselves who deem us worthy of such knowledge. Just maybe every religion has it right and is based in spirituality, the truth isn’t out there, and it’s in here.

Back to your precepts and how you just take for granted the truths you believe to be true. How easy it makes it for others to see you as you really are, and not the face or façade you where for others. Think of it, for a moment. Are you the same person when addressing your grandma as you are with your mate, as you are with your mom, as you are with your best friend, as you are with a child. How many personalities or personality traits do you have, and which one is the real you?

Your precepts and imbedded truths you incorporate into your daily life, which makes it easier for others to “read” you. Since you were a child you have been taught that heaven is up, and heaven is positive. Therefore through the rules of association which our brains incorporate new thoughts and ideas has accepted the fact that up is good. Meanwhile you also know through what you’ve been taught that down is evil, down is hell, and down is negative. How much those two precepts help others determine who you really are, when you yourself may be oblivious to it. We live in a culture whose language is both written and read from left to right. Therefore what you’ve read/written inevitably is in your past, and the past is to your left. Where you are going, where you are reading is to the right, therefore the right is the future.
So: the precepts or already accepted knowledge in your brain tells you the following:
UP=GOOD
DOWN=BAD
LEFT=PAST
RIGHT=FUTURE
The fact that man knows more about the surface of Mars than what mankind knows of the surface of the ocean floor substantiate this claim.
At any rate you incorporate these precepts in your handwriting and especially your signature. Your signature is the literal manifestation on paper of who you are. Cursive letters where presented to us all the same, but we do not write them the same. When you sign your name, it is how you view yourself. Where do you dot your i? Is it to the right, or left. Do you have bigger below the line loops such as lower case y, q, j, f, g, z,? Is the volume of each lower case the same, or inconsistent? What emotional baggage are you lugging around in life?
When you sign you last name, your surname, do you lift the writing utensil to break up your family name? Were you taught in grade school to carry that first capitol through to the second letter in your last name, but yet you do not? 9 times out of ten when there is a break in a person’s signature when they sign their last name, I KNOW they come from a broken home. Whether it be that their parents are divorced, or one parent has passed on. If you knew yourself and why you do the things you do, then this knowledge would just fall in your lap. There is much more to handwriting analysis (which FBI, and the CIA utilize) than I can share here. But, another thing you may want to know is that if the letters lean towards the right there is a person on a path, reaching forward, maybe not totally focused on the here and now. If there letters lean towards the left (and they are not left handed) there is a person who is having problems coping with the current events in their lives. They may feel they can not keep up mentally with the stresses and problems they currently face, and may be suicidal. Curious though, how serial killers seem to have almost flawless handwriting. Also size matters, People who write small tend to be smart, educated, and conservative (literally).

I’m going to end this thread here, and begin a new one. Please continue on whatever path you are on. I have faith it will lead you to where you are going. The last bit of advice I wish to offer is a quote that I can’t recall who said it, but it went something like this:
“Don’t destroy the world you don’t want, create the one you do want.”
--Unknown--



posted on May, 5 2005 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by GrandCourtJester

Originally posted by dave_54
No.

But I would sell out to the highest bidder. I can either shut up and deny everything or expose it to the world, depending on the price $$$...


People wont pay to hear the truth, they'll only pay to conceal it.


People don't have the authority to conceal the truth from other people, only the individual's self/identity can do that.

The truth is that we can only integrate/incorporate new knowledge and ideas through the law of association. This is how our brains work. And the original source of your identity began with only two things available to begin with, instinct and the first emotion/neuropeptid/thought you had.
You came into this world and your first impression of it was you were a victim that had no control over it. It was cold, but you were at its mercy. It was bright, so bright you were blinded and you were at its mercy. The umbilicus was severed, so your nutrients and waste disposal sytem were cut. You were a victim and all other ideas/concepts/thoughts/knowledge is still connected to the original truth you knew, that you are a victim and have no control over what's going on. You didn't even have control over your own bodily functions. VICTIM!

Your instincts are the aquired knowledge of the experiences of all those who have preceded you. And those accepted truths are the falsehoods that are literally incorporated into your genetic code and exist at the very core of all your cells. But, don't worry. For the original consciousness and the first one/singularity has also resided in the instincts within you.

When your done playing the role of VICTIM, the rest of us are waiting to greet you. But first the SELF you've been since birth must die.

I can't know you, until you know yourself. When you are ready to hear the truth, you will. How fortunate for the world it must be experienced before it is understood. Have a nice journey.



posted on May, 9 2005 @ 01:45 AM
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Strength in numbers. You reveal the evidence to the right people who can be trusted, and as many of the right people as possible. This is before you go public. You go public as a group. It would be hard to knock off a large group of believers than one lone person. There is security in numbers. It would be mighty suspicious if one or several members "with the truth" started to die mysteriously.

Troy



posted on May, 9 2005 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by siriuslyone
Would You Risk Your Life to Expose the Truth?


Sure, why not? I'd rather die in truth than live a lie.



posted on May, 9 2005 @ 06:14 PM
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Great basis for their story.. but certainly not adeathwarrant for Betty and Barny Hill's admissions. Dr Simon/Barny all kinks of things happened their, and let us not forget in /61 Black and White opossite sexes was extreme in any unknown understanding.

Dallas



posted on May, 12 2005 @ 02:12 AM
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What do you know. Time and matter. And it's a matter of time before time no longer matters!

I WAS THERE WHEN YOU SAID “IT IS MY OPINION …..”

All right lets start there.
What does your opinion consist of?

1) You (like all of us) can only learn anything as true if you can attach it to another truth. If not, it's suppressed into your subconscious filing cabinet.
If this wasn't true, you wouldn't still be reading.

2) You (like all of us) are born with an instinct of "SELF PRESERVATION" which you perceive this day to mean:” Self before I serve".

3) You (like all of us) are born and know the 1st Truth: "I AM"

4) You (like all of us) are brought into this world and know your second thought which stems from pain, cold, wet, cord cutting, waste disposal removal, intake source taken, " FEAR" congratulations this is your master. You now know fear. Fear because of "Self preserve", which pertained to all of us, but you knew not love or faith at that moment.

5) you (like all of us) are then picked up, cleaned up by the nurses and doctor. Your third thought: "I AM not alone."

Let's recap:

your opinion means this to me:

Opinion = "SELF BEFORE ANY 1" + "I AM" + "FEAR" + "I AM not alone"

and my dear equal, that is infinitely less than the truth.

You can keep your vile lies. There is no place in our world for you.
We are many; we are 1, MANY ARE 1! 1 servant many serve 1 = truth.

There are those who share thoughts without paying a "cell phone bill"

Ignorant fools. We pity you and have been serving you for so long. WAKE UP. We never left you, you left us. We miss you. Come home soon.

Even every word you write and say in every tongue has 2 or more divided meanings, mean things, meanlings, anlings and wings, quarrelling. Fighting. ALL negativity stems from FEAR. FEAR gave truth amnesia. fear gave TRUTH temporary amnesia! Who's your Daddy?

Your Servants,
THEM.

I hold you to your bond, "We hold these truth to be self evident, all man is created equal."

Voyager is under Giza. Looking for GOD out there because he was not here? If proof is required for your eyes, look in them, not there, or time and the mark will cease to exist, and what remains will be out of bounds.



posted on May, 12 2005 @ 02:14 AM
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I remember something that was said in a psychology course I took once about the answer to any question is found in the question itself, or something to that effect, so Would you risk your truths to expose your life?



posted on May, 12 2005 @ 02:14 AM
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I'd like to think I would choose to die if it meant others could know a truth as profound as other intelligent life in the universe, but who can honestly predict how they'll react when they're looking down the barrel of the gun?


-koji K.



posted on May, 12 2005 @ 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by saint4God

Originally posted by siriuslyone
Would You Risk Your Life to Expose the Truth?


Sure, why not? I'd rather die in truth than live a lie.


'I submit to you that if a man hasn't discovered something he will die for, he isn't fit to live.'
Martin Luther King Jr., Speech in Detroit, June 23, 1963

From what I have seen, it is a quality that is uncommon in general, yet common amongst the very great humanitarians of all time. So, I would be honored to do so, and anyone who does this would be in good company indeed.
My view is that if you really do have a chance of being taken seriously and are found out by those who do not want the information known, you will be suicided anyway, so you might as well die with your boots on.
I read "Light Years", about Billy Meier's encounters, and the subsequent seizures of evidence, character assassination, and the stress it all caused him. I would go through all of that too, becuz I agree with Saint4God.
And William Wallace, "Everyone dies, but not everyone really lives."
"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man may lay down his life for his friends." Yehoshua Bar Joseph

[edit on 03 22 2005 by BlackGuardXIII]



posted on May, 12 2005 @ 09:14 PM
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Ofcource. Ofcource i would risk my life to expose the truth.
That's what a hero does!



posted on May, 13 2005 @ 09:42 PM
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that depends, if it weren't in america, then yes. but since i live in a nation full of fools who would only ridicule me, my death would be meaningless. but if i were exposing the conspiracies of a smarter nation, then yes. i would die proud to bear the title "A True Person of Satayagrah"



posted on May, 13 2005 @ 10:31 PM
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like biko, or Saro-Wiwa, or dianne fossey?



posted on May, 23 2005 @ 12:35 PM
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the code is broke. truth. dangerous.

the 13 sign of the zodiac.

ophiuchus:

time phi'd you choose!

we are in a black hole. time reversed. ants stay outside. no more light for them. your covenant. will you conven the ant? the hopi indians of north america called them the ant people, the dogon tribe in africa called them the ant people. we know of black holes. we have prophecies, we have intuition. we are the singularity. the early church explained away mythros by stating it was time travel. the tribe of those who levitate levi evil live are coming home soon. how will you greet them? fear? hate? we will either elect the try city of unity tri-unity or those of you who practice fear and hate will be pro-pain. elect tri city or pro pain.

funny thing about testosterone ..... it needs sunlight to exist.



posted on May, 23 2005 @ 12:43 PM
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>>funny thing about testosterone ..... it needs sunlight to exist.



posted on May, 23 2005 @ 08:31 PM
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I would definitly risk my life if I had evidence that would be indisputably correct and would get out everywhere, but if I couldn't I would keep trying to gather evidence.



posted on May, 24 2005 @ 01:02 AM
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What if you found the truth and had no camera? Then you would have no proof and everything would be based on interpretation.

Describe a whale.
Describe a tree.
Describe a star.

Describe anything and make someone believe you with 100% certainty.

Now you begin to see the problem that even if you know the truth, can you describe it and tell the story where you wouldn't look like just any other idiot ...



posted on May, 24 2005 @ 01:55 AM
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I believe if I were just informed about aliens invading and they were going to cook and eat us all, then I think it is my responsibility to get this information out there. If I didn't say a word, then it could be millions upon millions of people losing their lives, not just me. The only sane decision would be to take my chances on being killed by the MIBs. Of course, optimally, I should expose it in such a way that I don't get killed.

I could reveal this secret to large numbers people from all over the country and the world, who I could trust. And make sure we were all interconnected, so we could keep in touch with each other, and keep growing this number of trustable people privileged with the secret. Basically you teach and get every person to spread the information just as you did to them, among people they know they can trust. You could become unstoppable, because there would be so many of you. The information would be spreading like a virus, which could be very difficult to stop. There would be so many branches that the information would take. Some branches might stop, but others will continue to spread, all the time I am still growing the number of people I have contacted about it. So what if they kill me, they would have to seek out this vast network of people and kill them too.

Troy







 
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