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Danish queen raps radical Islam

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posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by LA_Maximus


The current Birthrate of WHITE Europeans is plummeting, while the current birthrates of Muslims is sky-rocketing.


I am confused now. What about the birth rate of several million white muslims who live in Europe?!
If their birth rate is high, is that good or bad?
I mean, white people increasing in number but at the same time muslims increasing in number.... what about that?




posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 01:05 PM
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I meant current history Paddy, look at any nation where Muslims get a numerical majority and you will see that Im right.

Im not Raciest, but a Realist. I refuse to stick my head in the sand and hope everything will be alright. The Socialists in Europe have stabbed their own countrymen in the back by attacking Christianity and letting in large numbers of Muslims and most white Europeans are starting to wake up and see the writing on the wall.


Maximu§



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Ulvetann
[/img]Torben Vagn Hansen

And here are the suspects...

The 27 years old sudanese, 'Jaguar' and the arrested suspect, 34 year old Jared Heller.
'Jaguar' is wanted through Interpol and Schengen
Heller has not broken yet, and still pleeds not guilty.


[edit on 15-4-2005 by Ulvetann]


Due to ATS Censorship
, I have to post the link of where you can find the head, instead of using the head itself. Here it is:
Head
WARNING! No blood, no guts, just a head.

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posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 02:30 PM
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Actually, you weren't being censored, I personally requested that you make it a link and notify people about it. If its meaningful to you, by all means, make it a direct photo.

It freaks me out, personally, and I am sure it freaks others out too, we don't need to see it. It'd be nice to put a notice. Its not required, because its not gratutitous gore, its quite relevant. Its also disgusting and revolting, why offend peopel like that for no reason?
But if it bothers you that its covered up, or you feel like you are being pressured, then, by all means, leave it up, me and anyone else will just have to not look at it.


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What the heck are you talking about anyway? You didn't change the photo in the first link anyhow.

[edit on 15-4-2005 by Nygdan]



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Souljah
You want to know who the real enemies are, the people that are killing you slowly just now, the people that dont care about nobody or anything, the people that are leaving behind a terrible legacy of destruction and enviromental devastation?

The CORPORATIONS!

There is Your enemy! They Rule this World! They threaten their secruity and peace and they are the ones that cause innocent people to Die Everyday around the Globe. They find Opportunity in Despair!

Fight THEM!


I have to disagree, I did not see any IBM, Exxon or GE logo's on Al Qaeda members following 9/11. All I saw was radical Islam declaring war on the west.

Maximu§



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
Actually, you weren't being censored, I personally requested that you make it a link and notify people about it. If its meaningful to you, by all means, make it a direct photo.

It freaks me out, personally, and I am sure it freaks others out too, we don't need to see it. It'd be nice to put a notice. Its not required, because its not gratutitous gore, its quite relevant. Its also disgusting and revolting, why offend peopel like that for no reason?
But if it bothers you that its covered up, or you feel like you are being pressured, then, by all means, leave it up, me and anyone else will just have to not look at it.


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What the heck are you talking about anyway? You didn't change the photo in the first link anyhow.

[edit on 15-4-2005 by Nygdan]


Nygdan, Dear Moderator.
I have, as you should be fully aware of, no chance in h*** to remove the picture in my first post as you want, due to expired editing time.
Since you, the Moderator, has kindly asked me to make a link of the picture, I have done so. I also made a full quote of the information that was written in that post, so it is actually fully up to you, to delete that post, your Honour...



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 03:11 PM
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If it is true that the Danish queen indeed said something of the sort, then I'm truly surprised, because I always thought of her as being an enlightened monarch. But if it is true that she said this, then she is the radical here and needs to take a crash course in tolerance. How in the world can one bundle together all the people of one faith when these people come from different countries with very different cultures? Iran, Bosnia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Morocco, Tunisia, China....... these are all very different societies! Can you imagine how ridiculous it would sound if the Shah of Iran would have stated that all Christians in Iran need to improve their Farsi language skills? There might be many immigrants in Denmark who do not speak their language, but believe me when I tell you that it has nothing to do with their religious beliefs! I'm sure that there are just as many non-Muslim immigrants who do not speak Danish. And what do you mean with "Radical Europe"? Maybe you need to look up the definition of the word "radical".... You definitely sound like you are the radical here!



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 03:17 PM
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LA_Maximus - You are just as much not a racist as was Adolf Hitler! You need to buy yourself a ticket and make a tour around the Muslim world so that you can get rid of your bad case of Muslim phobia! People like you are no better than the Taliban or Al Qaida. To me you're all the same. Ignorance does not know the boundries of religion, nationality, race or ethnicity. What exactly are you referring to when you say that look at the societies where Muslims have become the majority and what has happened to them? Amy specific examples? And what exactly has happened to them?



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by paperclip
The picture you posted just shows normal muslims praying, I doubt that it is even Denmark.


As a curiosity, the picture is actually from Denmark... ...from Copenhagen.



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 03:27 PM
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Huh? I thought this was about a queen rapping...
dang.
The title of this thread is totally misleading...



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 03:40 PM
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There is no way to know the religion of either from the info available. The obvious reference to Islamic beheadings was a known issue. This is just a horrible crime by some very strange persons.

[edit on 15-4-2005 by DrHoracid]

Dr Horacid - I can't believe that you would be serious! I am a Muslim and I can promise you that neither I nor anyone of my relatives or Muslim friends or the tens of thousands of Muslims that I have known and many more whose paths have crossed mine in life, have ever beheaded another human being, nor would we ever condone of such barbaric behaviour! As you probably know the Christian crusaders beheaded tens of thousands of innocent Muslims, but should that mean that I then should conclude that all Christians condone beheadings of people of other faiths? Ofcourse not! Islam does not condone such behaviour and neither does Christianity. But in both religions there are followers who are lunatics. I take great offense that you would think that we would condone such behaviour. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful people who humbly go about living their lives trying to serve God the Almighty in the best way they can. They are extremely hospitable and kind. What you have seen on the screen of your TV is the action of political groups who are reacting against the agressions and transgressions of certain countries, including the U.S. and Israel, and against the former colonial powers and their crimes, and these political groups are using Islam as a platform. And they are entirely wrong in doing so because religion is not about politics.



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Siroos
If it is true that the Danish queen indeed said something of the sort, then I'm truly surprised, because I always thought of her as being an enlightened monarch. But if it is true that she said this, then she is the radical here and needs to take a crash course in tolerance.


Whoooaaaaaa there. She is radical for saying that people should learn to speak the nations language?????

THIS is EXACTLY why people DON'T like immegrants! It's the ones who REFUSE to adapt to where they live! It's like here in America - no one has a problem with anyone moving here, but we DO have a problem with you not even bothering to speak our language!


Can you imagine how ridiculous it would sound if the Shah of Iran would have stated that all Christians in Iran need to improve their Farsi language skills?


Yes, I most certainly can! If you move to France, you learn to speak French, when you move to England, you learn to speak English! As they say, when in Rome...



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by American Mad Man




THIS is EXACTLY why people DON'T like immegrants! It's the ones who REFUSE to adapt to where they live!



First of all, if they have a job, do not commit any crimes, pay the taxes, their kids go to school, they HAVE adapted to the life in foreign country.

A lot of immigrants arived in the last decade or so, and upon arival started working crappy 12 hour a day jobs nobody else wants. They have a family to take care of, barely enough money for it and language courses do cost a lot. There aren't enough evening courses for these people either.
A certain number of them don't even have a proper education and don't speak their own language well. In such situation it is very difficult to learn a new language. What about people who have a different alphabet all together, like chinese, arabs? They have to learn to write "our" letters first before anything else. Maybe they should just give up on sleep all together and learn all night, so they can please the ears of "stupid white men" with their english. (comment not directed at you personaly, it is directed at trailor park trash who can't speak their native language properly either, but are constantly bickering about them foreigners not speaking it right)


Learning a language isn't easy either. I am a foreigner here in Austria. It took me one whole year to learn german, and that with courses every single day, 6 hours a day.

Also, many perceive foreigners as "not adapted" if they talk amongst themselves in their native language. You know the thing: you are walking down the street, see a group of, let say, mexicans talking in spanish. You think to yourself "damn these foreigners do not speak english!". In the meantime that group of young people has arrived at school and started speaking english with others who are not mexicans.
They have every right to talk in their native language if they wish to. If that somehow disturbs someone's idyllic "pure" native country it is not the foreigner's problem.

It does help a lot to learn the language of a country you live in and YOUNG people who are living in foreign countries and have the opportunity to learn it, should do it, for their own benefit. They do indeed often learn it, since they cant go to schools without knowing the language.
But the others who do not learn it should not be singled out as "not adapted", just because their language doesn't please your ears. If they play by the rules in other things then they ARE adapted.



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Siroos
If it is true that the Danish queen indeed said something of the sort, then I'm truly surprised, because I always thought of her as being an enlightened monarch. But if it is true that she said this, then she is the radical here and needs to take a crash course in tolerance. How in the world can one bundle together all the people of one faith when these people come from different countries with very different cultures?


Enlightened. I love that word; it reminds me of the Blue state residents' opinion of themselves.
But I digress.

Learning the language of a host country has nothing to do with faith or culture. It is merely a courteous and pragmatic thing to do. Nobody is demanding, or even suggesting, that muslims abandon their faith or culture.

Refusal to learn the language of a host country for reasons of faith is arrogant.



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by American Mad Man

Can you imagine how ridiculous it would sound if the Shah of Iran would have stated that all Christians in Iran need to improve their Farsi language skills?


Yes, I most certainly can! If you move to France, you learn to speak French, when you move to England, you learn to speak English! As they say, when in Rome...


...learn to speak American?



posted on Apr, 16 2005 @ 12:36 AM
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I think you guys are missing the point. Islam is no more an enemy than Christianity or Judaism is of mankind. During the "Golden Age" when Muslims had a stranglehold on Europe, science and mathematics and knowledge in literature that was thought to be destroyed by CHRISTIAN Roman leaders centuries back were rediscovered and all things flourished. The point is whether it be various Islamic Jihads or Christian Crusades or Jewish deli's (relax I'm jewish) the fact of the matter is that anyone who kills in the name of God is not doing God's will. This is plain and simple. I refer you all to the Ten Commandments. Thou Shall Not Kill. Plain and Simple. Any sort of killing whether it be for Mohammed or Christ is in exact opposition to God.

Also on the culture issue, America has had its hands tied with this issue all over with the border disputes. California tried to pass a piece of legislation that would require everyone to learn English. I agree that it is the right thing to do for an immigrant to learn the ways of the country he lives in not just settle various ghettos and then create a racial/ethnic conflict in the area. That is not the way to share a country.

~Rebel Saint~



posted on Apr, 16 2005 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by paperclip
First of all, if they have a job, do not commit any crimes, pay the taxes, their kids go to school, they HAVE adapted to the life in foreign country.


No - they have NOT. That is the thing. When you become an American, you speak English. When you live in Russia, you speak Russian.

Just because you get a job and don't break the law does NOT mean you have adapted




A lot of immigrants arived in the last decade or so, and upon arival started working crappy 12 hour a day jobs nobody else wants. They have a family to take care of, barely enough money for it and language courses do cost a lot. There aren't enough evening courses for these people either.


You don't need frigging language courses to pick up a language. If you make any attempt at all to TRY and speak it, to TRY and learn it you WILL! It takes effort, and that is EXACTLY the problem with some immigrants. They make no effort to pick up the language (and culture for that matter) of the place they live.


A certain number of them don't even have a proper education and don't speak their own language well. In such situation it is very difficult to learn a new language. What about people who have a different alphabet all together, like chinese, arabs?


Who cares - you don't NEED an education! You learn from TRYING. The problem is some of them don't! If you live in a country for a bloody decade how could you NOT learn the native language? Are all the immigrents that STUPID? Or is it just that they make no damn effort to try?


They have to learn to write "our" letters first before anything else.


Wrong! It is easy to pick up a spoken language without being literate! There are MILLIONS of people who can not write any language, yet know 2 or more languages.


Maybe they should just give up on sleep all together and learn all night, so they can please the ears of "stupid white men" with their english.


No - maybe they should MAKE AN EFFORT TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE OF THE COUNTRY THEY DECIDED WAS BETTER THEN THEIR OWN!

How hard is it to live in a country and learn to speak the language after a whole damned year!?!?!?! Again, I ask - are they THAT STUPID? Or do they just not care?



Learning a language isn't easy either. I am a foreigner here in Austria. It took me one whole year to learn german, and that with courses every single day, 6 hours a day.


I agree - it is not easy. I, more so then anyone would know this - I have some very bad learning "problems".

But I would say, after a year living in a country, you should be able to speak it. My problem is not with people fresh off the boat. It is with people who have lived here (or anywhere else) for years and not made any effort to learn the language. In California, we have whole schools teaching in SPANISH instead of English because none of their parents bothered to try and learn English. Thus, their children don't know English. And then they get pissed off because they can't get a job. Well no # they can't get a job - how in the hell is anyone going to work with them?


Also, many perceive foreigners as "not adapted" if they talk amongst themselves in their native language. You know the thing: you are walking down the street, see a group of, let say, mexicans talking in spanish. You think to yourself "damn these foreigners do not speak english!". In the meantime that group of young people has arrived at school and started speaking english with others who are not mexicans.
They have every right to talk in their native language if they wish to. If that somehow disturbs someone's idyllic "pure" native country it is not the foreigner's problem.


In a perfect world that would be the case. Sadly, this world is far from perfect and the MAJORITY of them don't bother to learn English in any kind of usefull capacity. I do not know for sure, but have heard from people that do live in Europe that they have the same problem - mainly with people who speak Arabic. And by the way - I do not mean this as an attack on Mexicans or Arabs. If an American moves to Germany, he better damned well learn to speak German! The thing is, it is mainly Arabs fleeing their country for western Europe and Mexicans fleeing for America. Thus they are the ones most guilty.


It does help a lot to learn the language of a country you live in and YOUNG people who are living in foreign countries and have the opportunity to learn it, should do it, for their own benefit. They do indeed often learn it, since they cant go to schools without knowing the language.


As I have said, this is not always the case. And I am sorry, but if a person grows up and spends the bulk of their life in a country, and yet still can not speak the native language must be an idiot. There is no excusenot to learn the language when you spend 10+ years of your life in the damned country! Hell, if freaking chimps can learn sign language, without ever having anything close to a human language and with half the brain power, no immigrant has any excuse NOT to learn the language!



But the others who do not learn it should not be singled out as "not adapted", just because their language doesn't please your ears. If they play by the rules in other things then they ARE adapted.


Yes, they SHOULD be singled out. They ARE in fact not making any attempt to assimilate. You don't move from your country to another country and not adapt their language.



posted on Apr, 16 2005 @ 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by cargo

Originally posted by American Mad Man

Can you imagine how ridiculous it would sound if the Shah of Iran would have stated that all Christians in Iran need to improve their Farsi language skills?


Yes, I most certainly can! If you move to France, you learn to speak French, when you move to England, you learn to speak English! As they say, when in Rome...


...learn to speak American?


Wow - I don't know if I should just shake my head, or
at you.



posted on Apr, 16 2005 @ 04:53 AM
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In 50 years in Europe there will be Chinese and Blacks from Africa - thats the way I see it!


Judging by what is going on in the countries of former Yugoslavia (Serbia has Alot of Chinese immigrants already, they dont even know how much), I really dont see any threat by Islam. After the Civil War, there is finally Peace in Balkans - where every Fifty years there is a Civil War!
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You gotta be kidding right ? The muslims have destroyed 150 Christian churches in the last two years in Serbia's occupied Kosovo & Metohija province. Most non muslims and even some decent albanians have abandoned the province already. Looks like their goal of creating an Islamic state in the heart of Europe is working well. I don't think Chinese and black immigrants in Serbia are involved in the heroin trade, human trafficking and illegal arms trading.



posted on Apr, 16 2005 @ 07:03 AM
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Whoooaaaaaa there. She is radical for saying that people should learn to speak the nations language?????


No, she's a radical because she said that MUSLIMS should learn to speak Danish, - And that is not only radical, but it's totally idiotic, irrational, biased, and ignorant!



THIS is EXACTLY why people DON'T like immegrants! It's the ones who REFUSE to adapt to where they live! It's like here in America - no one has a problem with anyone moving here, but we DO have a problem with you not even bothering to speak our language!


Wait a moment! I suppose you are a native Indian American? Or....? If you are not a native Indian American, you really have some guts to bash immigrants when the country where you live was literally taken away from the native American Indians. And ALL - I repeat ALL... Americans who are not native American Indians, are immigrants, including yourself! I can't believe that people can be so incredibly ignorant, intolerant and shortminded.


If you move to France, you learn to speak French, when you move to England, you learn to speak English! As they say, when in Rome...


Re you pretending that you do not quite understand what I'm saying or do you genuinely have a difficult time comprehending even simple sentences? I'm not objecting to the notion that as an immigrant one should try to learn the language of the adopted country - I'm objecting to that the Danish Queen states that MUSLIMS should learn Danish. Muslims are not a race, an ethnicity or a nationality. Muslims are more than one billion people who come from many different countries and are of all races. you can't bundle us all together and make such an utterly unintelligent claim as that we do not speak the language of the country where we have immigrated. Not only is that a totally false accusation, but it's outright stupid to think that people who have certain religious beliefs do not speak Danish.



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