Canadas health system collapsing

a reply to: angelchemuel
Replying to myself.... Kate has been discharged from hospital
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: annonentity
It seems that the state of the health system in Canada is getting Terminal, no doubt it will be the same for all those other countries that are experiencing the rise in Cancer rates. `

The problem with socialized medicine is that to make it work you need a large healthy working population. Some countries with small populations can make due because when the population of the whole country is under 6 million or so then the State can offset a good deal and not go bankrupt.

What is happening is the boomers and Gen X are getting old and retiring the younger workers are just not in the numbers needed and many younger people want to silently quit too. This creates an upside-down system and it goes broke as we have been seeing.

Poor planning or no planning for the incoming baby boomers more like it.

a reply to: glen200376

Healthcare isn't written into our charter of rights, how is it socialist Healthcare?

a reply to: strongfp

Socialism = anything I think is bad is the mantra on ATS these days.

It's the same logic that allows them to denounce the Democratic Party as Socialist or Communist. Despite the Democratic Party adhering to the most slavishly pro-corporate and worker-hostile form of crony capitalism ever conceived.

"Coming to a California near you!"

They will be rolling out the national dental program in several months and this too will most likely have the same problems, namely, not enough resources in place.

a reply to: quintessentone

I've always wondered why dental is separate from medical health. Oral health is so often tied to heart health.

originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: quintessentone

I've always wondered why dental is separate from medical health. Oral health is so often tied to heart health.

I read it's also tied to gut health.

a reply to: angelchemuel



Something does not add up.

originally posted by: annonentity
a reply to: stonerwilliam

As a bit of a side note with regards to what you get told in the UK through the media. I noticed that The royals Kate and William were telling everyone to get vaxed in an ad......but there seems to have been a development which I find suspicious, The royal watchers in Spain claim ..and they have been right in the past, that Catherine's illness is worse than is being made out in public they claim this has come from a source in the Palace and that she is in a coma cancer was mentioned, is this a case of Turbo cancer?

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So it is strange that the Queen Prince Phillip is now dead when they should have lasted at least a bit longer. Mabey not but watch this space.

King Charles is an old man who has undergone a routine procedure for an enlarged prostate.

Kate has just been discharged. "Turbo cancer"?!! Nope.

a reply to: annonentity

"So it is strange that the Queen Prince Phillip is now dead when they should have lasted at least a bit longer."

FFS , don't you know how old they were?!!!!

How long do you think they should have "lasted"?!!!!

Kate's been discharged home.

So obviously not in a coma.

Grow up and stay away from bitchute bs.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
King Charles is an old man who has undergone a routine procedure for an enlarged prostate.

Kate has just been discharged. "Turbo cancer"?!! Nope.

Come on, man. Don't you know? EVERYONE who has been vaxxed will have a medical problem sometime in the future! This never happened before covid vaccines!

a reply to: Euronymous2625

I forgot.

Oddly, these Royals are of course the elites who forced the evil prostate problems, turbo cancer causing vaccines on us all to depopulate the World.

But they seem to have forgotten that and took the stuff themselves and are now dropping like flies.

Someone seems to have had a bit of a logic failure?

Or are just........?

originally posted by: rickymouse

Look at all the changes in the chemicals used to process and protect our foods, it takes many generations for our metabolism to adapt to a few changes, yet we have altered all of this in the last thirty years a lot. Even what our ancestors age fifty years ago is not the same as it is today, fertilizers and pesticides reduce the plant defense system chemicals a plant makes that actually can be used to help protect us if used in proper moderation. Now these protective chemicals in food are way less...our food has changed way too much in recent decades, we cannot adapt in one or two generations.

What about EU, it is extremely stringent compared to the US. You say all this and I believe you but we are still living longer and better. I remember the people in their 40s back in the 80s and I was like I hope I don't look that bad in my 40s too, and today in my 60s I'm still better than them back then.

In my family, we do eat well, not really into processed foods. My wife didn't need to work and she is Asian so a lot of cooking over the years and my two boys 21 and 24 are healthy as hell and take zero meds.

Much is about conditioning the taste buds as to what tastes good, today my two boys still cook for themselves more than anything else. I remember at a birthday party at my house one kid would only each McD hamburgers. My wife cooked all this good food and his dad didn't want to eat any nor his kid so he went to McD and bought them burgers. I learned that is all the kid eats and the dad saw our food as something to get food poisoning from.

originally posted by: quintessentone
Poor planning or no planning for the incoming baby boomers more like it.

They can plan all they want, it is just not sustainable. I like the idea that much of the world has adopted and that is smaller clinics run by nurses with a doctor on call. 30-dollar cash business, zero insurance anything and they do well. In and out in 15 minutes. This would work for 80% of our medical needs, so then all one would need is catastrophic insurance.

a reply to: annonentity

King Charles also been discharged today.

Any comment?

a reply to: Euronymous2625

Even the royals talking about medical procedures, tend to normalize it. Whenever did that happen before? I agree seeing through the spin is a matter of putting two and two together and coming up with five is a possibility. These people are flawed human beings just like everyone else, having to act out a role that must be stressful at the best of times, they are as much prisoners of circumstance as the rest of the population. But they do get the lifestyle to compensate for it , since we pay for it we can't be too critical of being interested.

The healthcare system in Canada is a gong show.

The provinces scream for more cash from the federals who say make do with what you have. The provinces are supposed to be in charge of their own affairs but they only get funding if it suits federal criteria.

Provincial administration of healthcare is bloated at 8-1 admin compared to countries like Germany. Cuts to this is considered anti-healthcare and a political hay maker. Nothing will change.

Good luck getting a new doctor should your practitioner retire.

My advice to those with ailments is to go out of country and pay for treatments. It is cheaper than you think and of higher quality than you were probably lead to believe.

All my life I was fed the bs how great the health care is in Canada. It truly isnt great. It certainly isnt free if you are a tax payer. And... it isnt totally public.

Most Canadians are aware that provinces have a Collage of Physicians and Surgeons in charge of licensing and many interesting policies. Most Canucks are unaware that these entities are private. For example the CPSA in Alberta is private and the same family has chaired the board for over 50 years. These entities take advice from global groups which influence their policy without oversite.

Some say some policies are over-reaching. In Alberta parents will soon not be able to access the health records of their children aged 12-17. Many are lobbying for it to be 8.

Some say it is disdunctional by design. Most agree it isnt working and getting worse.

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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone
Poor planning or no planning for the incoming baby boomers more like it.

They can plan all they want, it is just not sustainable. I like the idea that much of the world has adopted and that is smaller clinics run by nurses with a doctor on call. 30-dollar cash business, zero insurance anything and they do well. In and out in 15 minutes. This would work for 80% of our medical needs, so then all one would need is catastrophic insurance.

Actually they have started those programs, I call them nursing stations and they are popping up everywhere. So they've got the new ideas it's just getting them implemented and running which is still a quagmire of confusion.