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Originally posted by UK Wizard
Politics in Britain isn’t in a good shape
the people of Britain are becoming even more apathetic to the political party’s
whose only concern seems to be themselves rather than the people who put them in office.
Party’s are turning to populist policies and false propaganda to gain votes rather than dealing with issues that people want solving.
The main root of this failure is the design of politics in Britain
Bring an end to political party’s, political party’s would cease to exist, no party would then control the Government, thus boosting individuality.
With an end to political parties people would vote for people as candidates rather than a party. This will lead to individual thought rather than mindless obedience to the party.
So in Government we would have non-party MP’s rather than MP’s belonging to a party.
Way 1
The MP’s can either remain as a normal MP’s or can put themselves forward for certain positions within the Government, for example MP Bob wants to be Minister for Health but there are also 5 other candidates who want the role, there is then a vote within Parliament to decide who gets the job.
Way 2
The MP’s can either remain as normal MP’s or can put themselves forward for certain positions within the Government, for example MP Bob wants to be Minister for Health but there are also 5 other candidates who want the role, the total of 6 candidates put forward their ideas to the public through various media and the population votes, but the population are also voting for the other positions at the same time, thus electing each major role in the Government.
I know there are problems with this idea, but there are also problems with the current system, but I believe something needs to be done before politics begins to stagnate and drag the country into a place of such apathy that a tiny percentage of the country elects our leaders.
I await your thoughts and opinions.
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
(you just knew I wouldn't let you down, right? )
- Hmmm.
I too sometimes feel a bit disappointed at the lack of involvement or enthusiasm but you have to appreciate Wizard that sometimes it is a reflection of contentment that people are not especially moved to engage or conversely that an unwillingness to engage is a statement in itself.
I think here in the UK you're about to witness the lengths the parties will go to to chase the publics approval.
Parties formulate policy on the basis of what their mass-membership (who are at least part of 'the public' afterall) decide (and even the tories - very recently - have opened up the party decision making to the membership).
- I couldn't disagree more strongly.
Parties provide a network of supporting individuals and venues for political activity. They are much more easily identifiable in terms of what they stand for and have a disciplinary system to deal with those who would use and abuse that 'system'.
- Interesting ideas Wizard but there's more of a touch of the 'remedy in seach of a problem' about it to me.
I would be loath to leave the rigour of the party system for a total array of individuality.
Originally posted by UK Wizard
Politics in Britain isn’t in a good shape
Originally posted by UK Wizard
the people of Britain are becoming even more apathetic to the political party’s
Originally posted by UK Wizard
It's not really approval, more of a who does the least damage...
Democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that havebeen tried
Originally posted by rowingcrazy
1: form guilds for the major indusrties, like guild of teachers, guild of doctors guild of bin men etc... they have elected leaders who have worked up through the ranks so to speak, these leaders then go to form a governemnt with an elected head, i suppose a bit like how the pope is elected, the leaders gather and decide between them who would be best. You would end up with a government who actualy knew what they were talking about!! a new commitee is elected every few years and no one is allowed more than say 4 years unless a public poll wants them to stay longer.
2: scrap the governemnt entirely and follow brussels with just the politicianswho are in brussels left. that would scrap a huge amount of "red tape" and would throw us in entirely with brussels rather than messing around on the edges.
Originally posted by rowingcrazy
Am a first time voter in the coming elections, still unsure as to who to vote for maybe tactical or might just not bother as i have a choice of labour or libdem. anyway to the point.
I think that keeping the current form of government in the comiing years is probably a bad idea. Brussels is gaining more power, no doubt about it so the continued need for such a large and quite frankly old form of leadership seems slightly needless.
I have had two ideas as to a new solution to govern britain.
1: form guilds for the major indusrties, like guild of teachers, guild of doctors guild of bin men etc... they have elected leaders who have worked up through the ranks so to speak, these leaders then go to form a governemnt with an elected head, i suppose a bit like how the pope is elected, the leaders gather and decide between them who would be best. You would end up with a government who actualy knew what they were talking about!! a new commitee is elected every few years and no one is allowed more than say 4 years unless a public poll wants them to stay longer.
idea 2
2: scrap the governemnt entirely and follow brussels with just the politicianswho are in brussels left. that would scrap a huge amount of "red tape" and would throw us in entirely with brussels rather than messing around on the edges.