Russian sanctions slow to bite as US officials admit frustrations over pace of pain in Moscow

a reply to: TritonTaranis


"European people DID NOT want this"


This part is correct, Europeans definitely DID NOT want russia's brutal invasion of another European country.

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

So thinks are all hunky dory in russia?

I am sure the sanctions have nothing to do with the high electricity bills.
How is this possible?

Do you not understand that EUROPE wanted the sanctions?

That EUROPE wants to push sanctions even farther than the US does?

Because russia invaded another EUROPEAN country.





The US could completely drop out of the sanctions program and it still wouldn't help russia at all.

FALSE


European people DID NOT want this.

Germany's foreign minister has decided that she will support the war in Ukraine-regardless of what Germans voters want

That's NOT DEMOCRACY
THAT is NOT serving the VOTERS

THAT IS SERVING GLOBALISTS

Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr

So 500m Europeans protested against the war did they?

So when western nations stick together on defense issues = Globalists?

What would you call russia china iran and a bunch of 3rd worlds? Anti Globalists? LMAO

FALSE.
Again. !!

NO ONE, NADA, ZERO european people voted for this war.

Even less likey that in a referendum they would vote for war knowing that would cause them to freeze in winter.


You seem to have missed her bit about "regardless what the German voter wants"
Her JOB IS to represent the wants of the voters. She is not nominated to be absolute dictator by the voters

You are clearly in support of both totalitarianism and yes, globalists

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

So thinks are all hunky dory in russia?

I am sure the sanctions have nothing to do with the high electricity bills.
How is this possible?

Do you not understand that EUROPE wanted the sanctions?

That EUROPE wants to push sanctions even farther than the US does?

Because russia invaded another EUROPEAN country.





The US could completely drop out of the sanctions program and it still wouldn't help russia at all.

FALSE


European people DID NOT want this.

Germany's foreign minister has decided that she will support the war in Ukraine-regardless of what Germans voters want

That's NOT DEMOCRACY
THAT is NOT serving the VOTERS

THAT IS SERVING GLOBALISTS

Is the German leader 'the US'?

Is Germany 'Europe'?

Did German voters elect that leader?



But yes, the 'European people' are now paying the price for electing previous leaders that got them hooked on buying their energy from a country that doesn't like them very much.




Perhaps you misunderstood the original claim?

Perhaps you misunderstood the principle of democracy, where elected leaders are there to represent the VOTERS, not to fullfill their own personal dictator fantasy.

No one like war or Putin.
Some support for Ukraine, sure.

But as an elected official, you draw the line at causing harm to your own population your are OBLIGATED to represent.



It's absolutely amazing how much leftists love this fantasy of being absolute dictators, despite their (false) claims of "democracy".

a reply to: M5xaz


Her job is to lead the country.

The voters already had their say in the matter, both by electing her, and by electing previous leaders that got Europe hooked on russian gas against the strong advice of EVERYONE involved in the defense of Europe.

Too late now.

Elections have consequences, perhaps some of the brainwashed masses will finally start to think about who and they vote for.

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: M5xaz


Her job is to lead the country.

The voters already had their say in the matter, both by electing her, and by electing previous leaders that got Europe hooked on russian gas against the strong advice of EVERYONE involved in the defense of Europe.

Too late now.

Elections have consequences, perhaps some of the brainwashed masses will finally start to think about who and they vote for.

For the third time, FALSE !!

Voters did not have their say. She did not campaign based on this war

Furthermore, she is foreign affairs minister, NOT Chancellor
Not in her purview to declare war.


Finally, with respect to the US, per the CONSTITUTION, it's up to CONGRESS to declare war.

Deny ignorance

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: M5xaz


Her job is to lead the country.

The voters already had their say in the matter, both by electing her, and by electing previous leaders that got Europe hooked on russian gas against the strong advice of EVERYONE involved in the defense of Europe.

Too late now.

Elections have consequences, perhaps some of the brainwashed masses will finally start to think about who and they vote for.

For the third time, FALSE !!

Voters did not have their say. She did not campaign based on this war

Furthermore, she is foreign affairs minister, NOT Chancellor
Not in her purview to declare war.


Finally, with respect to the US, per the CONSTITUTION, it's up to CONGRESS to declare war.

Deny ignorance

Voters elected someone to lead the country through whatever happens, because voters never know what's going to happen in the future at election time.

The brainwashed masses tend to not consider this before voting, but hopefully more will now.





Did she 'declare war'?

No.

So why make stuff up?






The U.S. is not at war, and US laws allow a good deal of flexibility for military operations to the executive branch without requiring a declaration of war.

As much as I dislike biden, he isn't anywhere near exceeding his authority re Ukraine yet, if anything he's been holding back to prevent displeasing russia.




Seems you haven't been 'denying ignorance'.

a reply to: vNex92

China , North Korea , Iran , Syria , and " Some " South American Countries Will Still do Business with Russia for their Energy Needs . Sanctions NEVER WORK .

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: vNex92

China , North Korea , Iran , Syria , and " Some " South American Countries Will Still do Business with Russia for their Energy Needs . Sanctions NEVER WORK .

Do those countries have the financial resources and existing pipelines that russia does?

Sanctions never work as well as sending our troops, but in this case we have no interest in sending our troops.

Because a madman keeps making nuke threats.

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: vNex92

China , North Korea , Iran , Syria , and " Some " South American Countries Will Still do Business with Russia for their Energy Needs . Sanctions NEVER WORK .

Do those countries have the financial resources and existing pipelines that russia does?

Sanctions never work as well as sending our troops, but in this case we have no interest in sending our troops.

Because a madman keeps making nuke threats.

HELLO ! Sanctions NEVER Work ..........

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: vNex92

China , North Korea , Iran , Syria , and " Some " South American Countries Will Still do Business with Russia for their Energy Needs . Sanctions NEVER WORK .

Do those countries have the financial resources and existing pipelines that russia does?

Sanctions never work as well as sending our troops, but in this case we have no interest in sending our troops.

Because a madman keeps making nuke threats.

HELLO ! Sanctions NEVER Work ..........

Yup, north korea, syria and iran have been enormously successful during sanctions!

russia is just upset about the sanctions that are making russia so successful!

Perhaps we should give them more.

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: M5xaz


Her job is to lead the country.

The voters already had their say in the matter, both by electing her, and by electing previous leaders that got Europe hooked on russian gas against the strong advice of EVERYONE involved in the defense of Europe.

Too late now.

Elections have consequences, perhaps some of the brainwashed masses will finally start to think about who and they vote for.

For the third time, FALSE !!

Voters did not have their say. She did not campaign based on this war

Furthermore, she is foreign affairs minister, NOT Chancellor
Not in her purview to declare war.


Finally, with respect to the US, per the CONSTITUTION, it's up to CONGRESS to declare war.

Deny ignorance

Voters elected someone to lead the country through whatever happens, because voters never know what's going to happen in the future at election time.

The brainwashed masses tend to not consider this before voting, but hopefully more will now.





Did she 'declare war'?

No.

So why make stuff up?






The U.S. is not at war, and US laws allow a good deal of flexibility for military operations to the executive branch without requiring a declaration of war.

As much as I dislike biden, he isn't anywhere near exceeding his authority re Ukraine yet, if anything he's been holding back to prevent displeasing russia.




Seems you haven't been 'denying ignorance'.

SMDH

Clearly, reading comprehension is not your forte.

Re-read what I wrote.
Slower


And yes, DENY IGNORANCE

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: vNex92

China , North Korea , Iran , Syria , and " Some " South American Countries Will Still do Business with Russia for their Energy Needs . Sanctions NEVER WORK .

Do those countries have the financial resources and existing pipelines that russia does?

Sanctions never work as well as sending our troops, but in this case we have no interest in sending our troops.

Because a madman keeps making nuke threats.

HELLO ! Sanctions NEVER Work ..........

Yup, north korea, syria and iran have been enormously successful during sanctions!

POST REMOVED BY STAFF

Try wsj.com.

Or any global financial site.

I'm not currently interested in any of thos countries.

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

I am Not Trying NOTHING . I asked for SOURCES From YOU . If you Cannot FIND ANY then Please Amend your Previous Post for Accuracy Kind Sir .....

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

I am Not Trying NOTHING . I asked for SOURCES From YOU . If you Cannot FIND ANY then Please Amend your Previous Post for Accuracy Kind Sir .....

Having a rough day?

Here, have a Snickers:


www.cnbc.com...

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

CNBC Is FAKE NEWS . Gotta do Better than that Boy........

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

CNBC Is FAKE NEWS

Do I need to explain that mirror thing again?

The CNBC article references national GDP and other stats, are they all fake news?

🤣

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Bluntone22

Can’t say I blame them since a huge percentage of the population remembers what it was like under Russia’s control.

The percentage of the population of the Southern/Eastern Ukraine doesnt seem to agree with you unfforneatly if you are talkinga bout the western Ukraien than i am sure they would agree with you.

population remembers what it was like under Russia’s control
That alone shows you know nothing of Ukraine nor that part of region.

Ukrainians are still by bond Russians as they were part of Rus people. This Russian hatred in Ukraine started in early 90s.

I think you may find it started in the early 1930's actually, you know, when Stalin starved 3 million Ukranians to Death in the Holodomor because he didn't agree with their aspirations...

But then you don't get taught that in Russia do you? You get taught that it was a famine that affected all of Russia as well...

That, my friend, is more Soviet lies....

This is the problem... Ruissians can't understand why the Ukranians don't welcome them with open arms...

IT'S BECAUSE YOUR GOVERNMENT HAS LIED TO YOU FOR 100 YEARS... YOU ARE NOT BEING TOLD THE TRUTH...

Most of the world knows the truth.... If only real Russians took the time to educate themselves...

PA