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Originally posted by outsider
I wonder how much time he had left since he had already served 26 years. None of the articles seem to mention that and usually they don't put prisoners in a less secure facility unless their sentence is winding down.
While law enforcement gets to brag & some are probably getting their rocks off on this story. I see a guy who has served as much or more time than most murderers do these days, so I don't see it as a really big deal. Yeah, he has to finish his time & pay a bit extra for his escape, but other than that let the guy go - he's no danger to society & he's just going to run the health care bill up in whatever facility they put him in as he's 65 years old. Let him work and pay his own damn health care.
I'm also curious who the jealous scumball was that turned this guy in - the story's say a tipster called authorities. I'm betting it was a jealous ex-lover/close friend that had a falling out with him or someone who's never had a life of their own so they go around trying to screw others to bring themselves up.
Yeah - I'll turn in a drunk driver so they don't hurt themselves or anyone else on the highway, or for that matter anyone I think has hurt or is hurting people, but turning a guy who's no threat to anyone for a crime that happened almost 50 years ago that he paid quite alot for already that's just plain vindictive and sleezy. To the tipster - YOU SUCK!
Yeah the guy commited a murder & was an accomplice in another, but I keep thinking 26 years - damn I think he's pretty much paid his due. I guess he should have fled to a third world country & become a farmer.
[edit on 27-3-2005 by outsider]
Originally posted by MemoryShock
I agree with outsider........Les' Miserables, anyone?
Originally posted by spliff4020
Would you think 26 years is enough time, if it was your mother or brother who was MURDERED? What if it was your son or daughter?
Maybe the tipster knew someone in the murdered mans family.
I dont care how much of a good life he's lead. Hes a murderer and I hope they make him spend the rest of his life in prison. He belongs there.
I guess you just have to know someone who was murdered to appreciate it. 26 years doesn’t make the pain go away. Why should it make his crime go away? LOCK HIM UP !!!!!
Well apparently you have never had any experience with our legal system and don't realize that there are many different types of murders & or murderers & they all treated differently.
Well, now it's up to the judge to decide not you or I. Maybe he does need to be put away forever, but with the information provided so far I'd have to say - not. Unless a close relation the tipster is still a bottom feeder in my opinion and as far as good & evil goes probably sits level at or below the guy that got arrested
In 1960, at age 21, Porter shot and killed John Pigott, a 22-year-old store clerk, during a robbery of a clothing store.
While he was awaiting trial, Porter and another inmate escaped from jail. They overpowered the jail master, David S. Robinson, then shot and killed him with a smuggled gun.
Porter, who wasn't accused of pulling the trigger in Robinson's killing, eventually pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in both cases and was sentenced to consecutive life terms. However, in 1975, then-Gov. Michael Dukakis commuted one of those sentences.
About a month ago, a tipster reportedly told Massachusetts police that Porter was living in the Chicago area. Investigators matched Porter's fingerprints to his 1993 arrest on theft charges in Chicago, in which he used the Jameson alias.
Originally posted by spliff4020
ROFLMAO--- Ive had quite a bit of trouble thru the years. Possesion, assault (he had it coming). But no, Ive never MURDERED ANYONE !!
In 1960, at age 21, Porter shot and killed John Pigott, a 22-year-old store clerk, during a robbery of a clothing store.
Poor guy..He's done enough time..Here's another fine example of what a great contribution to society he is..
While he was awaiting trial, Porter and another inmate escaped from jail. They overpowered the jail master, David S. Robinson, then shot and killed him with a smuggled gun.
Porter, who wasn't accused of pulling the trigger in Robinson's killing, eventually pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in both cases and was sentenced to consecutive life terms.
Ya, hes a stand-up dude!
However, in 1975, then-Gov. Michael Dukakis commuted one of those sentences.
Sounds to me, like he was nowhere NEAR finishing his sentences.
What would you be saying if some anti-pot smoking moderator assumed that since you've admitted being arrested for possesion and your using a drug slang as part of your username decided that he should track your IP address and find your true identity and give it to the local police so that they can bust you in your next spliff transaction? Maybe they believe pot smokers should all be in jail the rest of their lives to protect children & the rest of society.
Personally I don't care what you do as long as your not harming anyone else or operating a motor vehical while under the influence.
The guy was probably using a class II Narcotic & he killed someone while robbing a store to get his next fix. While he may have been an idiot & a danger to society at that time I don't see anything that indicates he was an evil person and needs to be locked up forever. The guy is now 65 years old that was 44 years ago and he served 26 years behind bars for his crime.
I noticed how you seperated the paragraphs about the escape/shooting and tried to imply that he killed the guard when in fact the next paragraph indicates he didn't. There is a difference between the two and we are not given any details other than he's not the shooter.
While the media & government try to portray someone escaping or attempting to escape from prison as a bad criminal for doing so, in reality anyone who is held captive and didn't at least think of escaping would be a pretty pathetic human being in my book.
Hmm.. Last time I checked commuted means reduced or shortened sentence - he was originally sentenced to two consective (back to back) sentences for second degree murder, but nowhere does it state how long those sentences were & since one was commuted he's already served 26 years for one second degree murder charge.
You can't convict someone based on something they did in the past.
Originally posted by spliff4020
Well, first of all they would have a hard time making that happen, but none the less..If they did, i would only posses a gram or so. I could swallow it before I let them in. Whatever, doesnt matter.
There are laws in society that have to be followed. Just the mere fact that escaped proves he wasnt rehabed in any way. He doesnt follow the rules. He believes that he is above the rules and can do as he wants.
What about that guard? Somewhere out there is a devastated family whos son, father or brother is dead.
He didn't watch a kid being raped - Let's not try to demonize the guy for a crime he didn't do. All we know is a guy that escaped with him killed a prison guard during the escape. It's not like "Prison & Jaill Guards" are the cream of the crop of our society - in fact for their level of skills or education they probably get paid more then any person in our society with equal skills or aptitude (lack thereof). They are the bottom rung on the ladder in our judicial system.
"Hey-- I didnt rape that kid!! I was in the same room, sure..I did nothing to stop it, but I didnt rape her !!!...BS...GUILTY !!
But what they can't do is ESCAPE !! Its pathetic to me that he wasn't man enough to do his time. He's a murdering coward.