Biden's Afghanistan pullout was expected.

I agree with Ron Paul on this, don't simp for George Warmonger Bush by putting all the blame on Biden:

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originally posted by: gunshooter

Not trying to sound like an a hole, but what is the point of this thread exactly? Just curious.

To make excuses for Biden.

originally posted by: IndyFront
I agree with Ron Paul on this, don't simp for George Warmonger Bush by putting all the blame on Biden:

Funny how George W Bush had all of their support, until it started to hurt the Democratic Party. Biden, Hilary, Obama.....

originally posted by: JIMC5499

originally posted by: IndyFront
I agree with Ron Paul on this, don't simp for George Warmonger Bush by putting all the blame on Biden:

Funny how George W Bush had all of their support, until it started to hurt the Democratic Party. Biden, Hilary, Obama.....

If you feel comfortable aligning yourself with a war criminal to # on Demwits by all means more power to you but I'm good is all I'm saying lmfao

originally posted by: JIMC5499

originally posted by: gunshooter

Not trying to sound like an a hole, but what is the point of this thread exactly? Just curious.

To make excuses for Biden.

Thats what I figured, but I wasnt going to jump to conclusions. As far as I'm concerned, the OP is weak minded, and has drank a substantial amount of the Kool Aid.... Anyone who is making excuses or defending this monster is part of this country's problem.....

For fs... atleast have the decency to say it like it is.

Trump was the one to initiate the deal. Pompeo even met with the Taliban on US soil.
Yes, the physical pull out happened now, but the move was initiated long ago.

Im still amazed how you americans seem to be so dimwitted that you dont understand that things going on here and now was not something everyone agreed upon yesterday.

Politics does not work that way.

And that goes for both sides.

I thought we were fighting against ignorance, stop promoting it.

a reply to: reject


Do you think maybe he could have done the evacuating before 86,000 were trapped behind enemy fire?

Or given taliban a few less modern weapons?



Or just desperate to defend what joe did.

By any means necessary, right?

originally posted by: flice
For fs... atleast have the decency to say it like it is.

Trump was the one to initiate the deal. Pompeo even met with the Taliban on US soil.
Yes, the physical pull out happened now, but the move was initiated long ago.

Im still amazed how you americans seem to be so dimwitted that you dont understand that things going on here and now was not something everyone agreed upon yesterday.

Politics does not work that way.

And that goes for both sides.

I thought we were fighting against ignorance, stop promoting it.

When are YOU going to understand?

NOBODY is complaining about the pulling out.

EVERYONE IS complaining about the lack of evacuating.

You do realize this is August, right?

And the evacuating was scheduled for March & April, right?

Did joe forget?

Lose his calendar?

Think that Trump would do the evacuating as private (heavily censored) citizen?

Think that someone else would just take care of the evacuating without any planning or ordering?


Absurd.

originally posted by: IndyFront

If you feel comfortable aligning yourself with a war criminal lmfao

What?

Are we talking about obama?

Is obama still in office?

Did obama forget to evacuate 86,000 Americans & allies?

We stopped talking about what obama did a long time ago.




This is 2021.

81 million brainwashed democrats gave us a bumbling sockpuppet as president.

And are now desperate to find a way to blame someone else.




Because it couldn't possibly be that they got fooled.

That would be too painful to admit.

originally posted by: sraven

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: reject

Biden forgot we had tens of thousands of vulnerable civilians there.

Biden forgot the military/intel advised him to wait until late Fall (Taliban mostly dormant then) to withdraw troops, after withdrawing civilians.

Yes....on both counts....HE FORGOT.

He did not forget.
He has a vice president, joint chiefs of staff, a cabinet, and Nancy Pelosi to remind him daily of what is he supposed to screw up next.

Saying he forgot is cutting him slack that he does not deserve

Are you saying that you think joe did this intentionally?


I agree, there sure are a lot of things that seem to indicate that.


But not so sure it wasn't just complete incompetence.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit
You make it sound like Biden was in charge of filling in the evacuation seating arrangements.

Someone else would most certainly have to take care of the evacuating details.

Maybe it wasn't done for a reason?

I couldn't say what that is but I will say that I have not seen americans this riled up since 9/11.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Nunyabizisit
You make it sound like Biden was in charge of filling in the evacuation seating arrangements.

Someone else would most certainly have to take care of the evacuating details.

Maybe it wasn't done for a reason?

I couldn't say what that is but I will say that I have not seen americans this riled up since 9/11.

Joe would need to approve the joint chief's plan and issue order to proceed.

Just how it works here.

That did not happen.




Or is it your theory that the U.S. military ignored joe's orders to begin the evacuating?

Do I really need to spell out how absurd that is?

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Joe would need to approve the joint chief's plan and issue order to proceed.

That joint chief's plan didn't include an evacuation?

Who's fault would that be?

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Joe would need to approve the joint chief's plan and issue order to proceed.

That joint chief's plan didn't include an evacuation?

Who's fault would that be?

Joe's.

Do you really need a civics lesson?

The joint chiefs work for him.

They provide plans as ordered.

And frequently many additional for consideration.

Joint chiefs have zero authority.

Zero.

The president does.

They act on the president's behalf.

That means the president's orders.

Unfortunately 81 million brainwashed democrats got Feelz about tweets and put a bumbling idiot in the big chair.

This is the result.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit
Do you need a lesson in reality?

You think things reach the oval office desk on a whim?

Just because the president gives the final approval doesn't mean it doesn't go through many levels of consideration.

They work for him but he also delegates a lot.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Nunyabizisit
Do you need a lesson in reality?

You think things reach the oval office desk on a whim?

Just because the president gives the final approval doesn't mean it doesn't go through many levels of consideration.

They work for him but he also delegates a lot.

Yes, the president delegates.

Nobody is claiming any different.

That would be dumb.



In this case, the president delegates planning for implementing his orders, and then either approves their plan or sends them back to try again.

Can even replace them if they refuse to provide what he requests.



In this case, there is no evidence that joe's plan included any evacuating.

Until msm started paying attention last week.

Or are you trying to imply that the U.S. military ignored the president's orders to start the evacuating?

THAT would be absurd.

And would still be joe's responsibility to immediately replace them anyway.

Which he did not do.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit
Pretty sure delegation includes a lot of things before he issues orders.

Are you trying to imply that the U.S. military didn't inform the president of the need to evacuate?

Why would they have omitted something like that?

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Nunyabizisit
Pretty sure delegation includes a lot of things before he issues orders.

Are you trying to imply that the U.S. military didn't inform the president of the need to evacuate?

Why would they have omitted something like that?

Not making any claims about what a president does, or does not delegate.

It is a lot.



No, that would be dumb.

And what would it say about a president who didn't see the need to do any evacuating unless the military told him so?

Doesn't matter what joint chiefs did or did not say.

81 million idiots elected the king idiot.

Did they not realize that joe would be responsible for both giving orders, and seeing that they were carried out?

This is the result.




Military would NOT have omitted something like that.

And joe's responsibility to insist that they did, even if clown world was really that bad.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Military would NOT have omitted something like that.

Are you sure?

Things didn't start to move the second the order was signed. Someone could have brought it up seconds, minutes, hours maybe even days before the wheels were set in motion.

Don't be naive, something this big doesn't just happen from one moment to the next.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Military would NOT have omitted something like that.

Are you sure?

Things didn't start to move the second the order was signed. Someone could have brought it up seconds, minutes, hours maybe even days before the wheels were set in motion.

Don't be naive, something this big doesn't just happen from one moment to the next.

In 8 months the military didn't once consider that they may have to evacuate their own dependents, the embassy staff they guarded, or the people they work with every day?

Is that your theory?



What does it say about a president that allowed this to happen?

Or anyone in his administration that stood by and watched him do it?

Or the hand selected CRT specialists joe put in charge of our military?




Joe was elected.

Joe has all the authority.

86,000 people were not evacuated, as a result of joe's orders.

And democrats are desperately trying to deflect blame onto ANYONE else.