Critical Race Theory is not Marxist in my opinion

This is not a Marxist theory as others have said because at least Marxism is an ideology that is recognizable. This is something new this is a racist theory being sold to the public as anti-racist but in fact, promotes a type of racism as though every ancestor of everyone who ever did anything bad to anyone else somehow is responsible for their ancestor's behavior which is absolute and complete stupidity in my opinion. From a strictly legal theory basis, it simply does not conform to any sort of logical critique. Now it is force-fed into the minds of young school children who can not understand the logical fallacy this theory represents. This is a serious situation with regard to the Republic of the United States of America.

originally posted by: machineintelligence
This is not a Marxist theory as others have said because at least Marxism is an ideology that is recognizable. This is something new this is a racist theory being sold to the public as anti-racist but in fact, promotes a type of racism as though every ancestor of everyone who ever did anything bad to anyone else somehow is responsible for their ancestor's behavior which is absolute and complete stupidity in my opinion. From a strictly legal theory basis, it simply does not conform to any sort of logical critique. Now it is force-fed into the minds of young school children who can not understand the logical fallacy this theory represents. This is a serious situation with regard to the Republic of the United States of America.

You're right, but for the wrong reasons.

I'm am older member and I've lived under both a Marxist socialist government and a Marxist Communist government (Yes, I'm that old. Deal with it).

Marxism is a class based ideology. It's centered on the concept of class struggle and it recognizes class and class alone as the primary factor by which people should be differentiated.

Race, gender, gender identity, and all of the other modern obsessions are irrelevant to Marxism.

If you are a member of the laboring class it doesn't matter if you are a straight white man or a black lesbian. You are what your class is.

The same is true for management and aristocratic classes. You are your class. Nothing more, nothing less.

Critical race divides people based on race. So by its very definition it cannot be Marxist because it places race above class as the factor by which people are identified.

Under Marxism Donald Trump and Oprah Winfrey are both wealthy socialites who do not labor and do not produce, but who gain wealth off of the backs of those who do. They are both enemies people and targets of the struggle. That one is black and liberal and the other is white and conservative are irrelevant.

It's the same if you are poor. A poor liberal minority from the inner city is considered to be equal to a poor white conservative form a rural area because of their class.

Under Marxism the slave owner is considered bad not because he is white or because he is racist, he is considered bad because he profits from the labor of the slaves. Their race is irrelevant.

Critical class could be Marxist, but not critical race.

a reply to: machineintelligence

Oddly enough the website, world socialist website has taken on a massive counter report and critical analysis of crt and project 1619:

www.wsws.org...

The Times wrote that its project intended to “reframe the country’s history, understanding 1619 as our true founding, and placing the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of the story we tell ourselves about who we are.” It included not only a special magazine edition that was freely distributed in hundreds of thousands of copies to schools and museums nationally, but a proposed teaching curriculum for teachers to use in their classrooms.
Despite the pretense of establishing the United States’ “true” foundation, the 1619 Project is a politically motivated falsification of history. It presents and interprets American history entirely through the prism of race and racial conflict

a reply to: machineintelligence

So is it Black Lives Marxist? I'm sure it is.

a reply to: machineintelligence
My signature...
"anti-racism" is nothing more than actual racists discovering a way to shout their racism in civil society without being silenced ... because it allows them to accuse anyone who disagrees with them of racism!" - Adam Ford

a reply to: machineintelligence

As AaarghZombies has noted CRT cannot be Marxist. Per Klassifieds signature, CRT is racism under a different name.

One of the key things about modern day racists is that they need everybody to be racist in some way, this provides them with a justification for their own racism.

a reply to: myselfaswell

I get it. When you are trying to create a problem, reaction, solution situation and have no initial problem to start with you have to initiate a situation from the start to obtain the conditions you need for the set up.

Hence the MSM and pretty much most of the propagandalf governments.....

originally posted by: machineintelligence
a reply to: myselfaswell

I get it. When you are trying to create a problem, reaction, solution situation and have no initial problem to start with you have to initiate a situation from the start to obtain the conditions you need for the set up.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

are you not equating your premise to classical marxism ? Todays feminists are nothing like classical feminists . They are a man hating cult.
Today's liberals are anyting but liberal . Again vs classical liberals where they actually valued liberty .

Marxism is no different. Its a new breed today and so much the definitions change. they cherry pick what they like about old marxism and intertwine it with a updated it version . a post modernist one at that.

The problem is we are using terms , reason and logic with people who didn't use those things to come into the mindset they are now .

We cannot use reason and logic with people who claim to be marxists , leftists or pushing critical race theory . All these mentalities are byproducts of mental disorders.

It's not a Marxist Theory, it's a Marxist tool for intimidation and fear and control 😃

a reply to: seedofchucky

Isn't it interesting how so many people play the critical theory game without even knowing it?

Those who claim that CRT and cultural Marxism are "Marxist" are using critical theory to get their point across, changing the definitions as it fits their political agenda. Goes to show how fast definitions change with the sub cultures of the times.

a reply to: machineintelligence

Critical race theory is not Marxist period.

Marxism is about class politics, not identity politics.

Postmodernism is not Marxist.

Marxism is materialist and uses dialectic tools to establish objective truth. Postmodernism says there is no objective truth.

These are not esoteric theoretical points. These are easily established basic principles.

Everything else is noise.

a reply to: machineintelligence

CRT started in universities in the 80's as a backdoor approach to introduce Marxism.

Some answers might be in this masterpiece . . . . . 😉


Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung

A simple internet search using CRT and Marxism as parameters will answer any questions.

It will also support sides.

The left denies CRT is Marxist.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Google also caters to those who have biased google searches ... Critical RACE theory, involves focusing on race, and racial superiority, etc.
Marxism does not take into account for people's race or what ever ethnic groupings and such you choose to follow or hate. All it take's into account is those who are exploited or who are exploiting, and what is exploited for the exploiters. It's a simple concept on the surface.

The only reason why people muddle up Marxism with CRT is because "critical theory" takes some of it's roots within' later stages of Marxist philosophy where Marx started to even question is own works. The wild part is, those who yell and scream about "Cultural Marxism" as in critical theory, are falling into a literal Nazi propaganda trap that has lived on into today's world.

a reply to: machineintelligence

Critical Race Theory ... no, but the solutions proposed to deal with the racism and inequities of CRT *are* Marxist in origin and nature. You can't really separate the two.

a reply to: ketsuko

Oh yea and what did Marx propose as a solution to inequalities?

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: ketsuko

Oh yea and what did Marx propose as a solution to inequalities?

Seriously?

a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, seriously. What did Marx, in his own works, or words propose as a solution to inequalities? I'll emphasize, the word solution.