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Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
What's wrong? Man is not a complacent creature. People desire things for themselves, and their families. Some people like to be the best. None of these things are allowed in a communist society. By denying these things, you are denying human nature.
But you are going against the preachings of Jesus now. Jesus preached against earthly belongings. The best is not going to get you into heaven.
Everyone would practice it, work, share food, no greed, no need for what is not provided to them. Of course it would be nearly impossible to achieve this on a large scale, but communities could be set up with people who are willing to achieve this state. If you want, don't call it communism, since it seems to be a misleading term to you. However, what Jesus teaches is similar to the ideas of communism, just in a very peaceful way.
Why have economics?
There is enough food in this world for everyone to eat. There are enough resources in this world for everyone to have housing and clothing.
Originally posted by babloyi
Originally posted by jlc163
In christinity, you give as you can handle giving, to those who need help, as they need it....this is not where you force everyone to be on the same level.
But jlc, it says "Love your neighbour as yourself". Wouldn't that mean that mean that everyone SHOULD be on the same level? As in, don't try to get extra for yourself while your pal out on the street is going hungry.
The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge.
[edit on 25-3-2005 by jrod]
Originally posted by jlc163
Yes, you give people what they need, not making yourselves the same over and over. There is a huge diffrence.
Yes, you mentioned it, but the source is rather dubious. "A story left out of the Bible"? Where did you get it from, then?
Are you a christian? Do you believe Christ died on the cross to save you? If you do believe that, then what was he supposed to save you from if there is no hell? How does Christ getting himself killed make you "Lead a better life"?
Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
Without the advances brought on by advanced civillizations, you wouldn't have enough food for everyone. You wouldn't have anywhere near our level of technology. Society would not have developed beyond huts and small tribes.
originally by WeBDevil
Why we are comparing a religion to a political ideal is beyond me, but there you have it...
Communism: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
Originally posted by madmanacrosswater
how many here reject the notion. Communist, liberal, socialist..Jesus therefore God preached to feed the poor-leave no one behind. He DEFINITELY was not a capitalist.
Originally posted by Nygdan
And of course, communism advocates the destruction of all religion, and jesus certainly didn't.
Originally posted by Nygdan
There were 'communal groups' who shared stuff and lived ascetically, but thats not communism,
Originally posted by babloyi
Yes, you mentioned it, but the source is rather dubious. "A story left out of the Bible"? Where did you get it from, then?
Are you a christian? Do you believe Christ died on the cross to save you? If you do believe that, then what was he supposed to save you from if there is no hell? How does Christ getting himself killed make you "Lead a better life"?
Originally posted by saint4God
Isn't that along the path of socialism though?