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originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Hey..... you are on the right track....this is what this thread is all about.
14 Nisan...the day Yeshua dies and all anyone has to say is to bitch and moan about it in this thread. Why? Sinners do not like to be shown their sins.
Instead of learning how to better worship and show your love for Christ, many want to point fingers. It makes them feel better.
A child of God, has a personal relationship with God.
originally posted by: dffrntkndfnml
originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Hey..... you are on the right track....this is what this thread is all about.
14 Nisan...the day Yeshua dies and all anyone has to say is to bitch and moan about it in this thread. Why? Sinners do not like to be shown their sins.
Instead of learning how to better worship and show your love for Christ, many want to point fingers. It makes them feel better.
A child of God, has a personal relationship with God.
I chimed in to bring up the faithful praying before dinner, I wasn't sure how often you came across that. It's often a daily thing, though traditionally more formally done before holiday meals.
I think the practice of giving thanks and remembering Christ's sacrifice helps to center us, and enjoy the company of those I care about. It's part of looking forward to sharing a meal together and building up each other in faith.
Those I looked up to set an example, for me. Individuals' personal relationship with God varies and isn't usually the topic of discussion per see, rather the tender heartfelt conversations that can happen over a meal together.
originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: DeathSlayer
You're a wolf and you would yoke believers with your works based doctrine.
You keep saying I do this, i do that, look at me, I deserve heaven.....
None of us deserve heaven, and those who heap works to themselves have even LESS faith than those trusting in Christ. See what you're doing is, it is finished. . . . But....
It is finished . . . . However.
I hate this doctrine, I think its evil. Your threads gone quiet because you're being insufferable.
Tell me, oh Christian, when God asks you why you should be allowed into heaven, what will you say?
Are you a good person?
You said you've gone past grace alone, then you need to step back because you've gone passed the gospel!
originally posted by: ketsuko
Which were we commanded to do? Keep to the letter of the law ... or the spirit of it?
originally posted by: TerryDon79
OP is the typical xtian you see these days.
-Says/posts something that they think everyone should agree with.
-When the above doesn’t happen, insults/name calling/threats come next.
-Then people stop talking to them and, for some unknown reason, they think they’ve “won”.
originally posted by: NightFlight
a reply to: DeathSlayer
I'm a little confused about the timeline. Nisan 14 is supposedly the last supper, the betrayal, the arrest, the trial and conviction, the dragging of the cross to the mount, the nailing of the Christ to the cross and then hoisted upright with the other two criminals, pierced by a roman spear, and finally dying on the cross. His body is removed, cleaned and placed in the tomb - all on the same day?
I may be wrong, but the last supper, if a supper is an evening meal, should have been held on Nisan 13, then the betrayal, the arrest and trial before midnight. Then the dragging of the cross to the mount, etc. on Nisan 14. Three days later, the Resurrection on Nisan 17.
That timeline seems to make more sense to me.
I also believe that Mary Magdalene was a angel of the Lord's sent to watch over Christ and make sure everything went as planned. She seems to have been a mystery, I believe...
originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Very good my Christian sister.
OF COURSE BY SPIRIT.
Which drives me out of a love which I can not describe. And yesterday I celebrated the Lord's Supper in flesh and spirit.
originally posted by: ketsuko
Which were we commanded to do? Keep to the letter of the law ... or the spirit of it?
So true Christians who are taken into the New Covenant are commanded to observe Christ's death every year on Nisan 14. It is a yearly observance, just as was the Passover.
originally posted by: MidnightHawk
I really shouldn't chime in on this thread seeing the spirit being displayed in here. Hopefully everyone can calm down. If you are serious about serving God then it should allow you to display the fruitage of the spirit of peace and patience. Not bickering and fighting.
But since I am here I will expound upon some of the questions regarding the observance of Christ's death.
Firstly it is the only anniversary, or observance the Christian Bible commands a Christian to commemorate, or celebrate: "Keep doing this in remembrance of me."-Luke 22:19.
That Jesus didn't have to literally say this was to be a yearly celebration but that it was implicitly implied can be seen in when and how he initiated the special event.
Firstly, when did it happen? It was on the night of Passover, Nisan 14, 33 C. E. Now if you recall Passover is called just that because it is the night the angel of death passed over the houses of the Israelites in Egypt when all the firstborn of Egypt were put to death. Only those who had the blood of the lamb sprinkled on their doorposts did the angel pass over their house.
The blood of the lamb represented the blood that the Lamb Jesus Christ was to pour out on behalf of all humankind that puts faith in his ransom sacrifice.
The Israelites were told to celebrate the Passover during the week of unleavened bread which started on Nisan 14. And they celebrate this day even today!
Now before Jesus started the observance of his death he first celebrated the Passover with his chosen apostles. The 12 were with him, but he dismissed Judas before celebrating. Then after celebrating the Passover he then commemorated the Lord's evening meal. When he told his followers to "keep doing this" he was replacing the Passover celebration for the commemoration of his death.
So true Christians who are taken into the New Covenant are commanded to observe Christ's death every year on Nisan 14. It is a yearly observance, just as was the Passover.
Today when does a new day start? It is as 12AM, in the middle of the night. During Jesus' time, the day started at sundown. So Jesus waited until the sun had set before celebrating the Passover. The next day it was still Nisan 14 until sundown. By then Jesus had been hung on the stake, murdered, taken down and buried. For it was not lawful to keep a man hanging until sundown.
originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: DeathSlayer
Colossians 2:16: "Therefore let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths.
You have. . . . .Read the Bible havent you? Why are you so desperate to cling to the law? If you do, you're a sinner.....
originally posted by: DeathSlayer
So true Christians who are taken into the New Covenant are commanded to observe Christ's death every year on Nisan 14. It is a yearly observance, just as was the Passover.
Thank you brother,
EXACTLY ............. COMMANDED
A command to the Christians.......
So how many wannabe Christians failed to follow this command on 14 Nisan.???
REPENT
and get over it. Ask your Father in heaven for forgiveness and CHANGE!!!
FOLLOW stop trying to lead!! (not you brother, I am talking to those who disagree)
Peace
DS
originally posted by: MidnightHawk
I really shouldn't chime in on this thread seeing the spirit being displayed in here. Hopefully everyone can calm down. If you are serious about serving God then it should allow you to display the fruitage of the spirit of peace and patience. Not bickering and fighting.
But since I am here I will expound upon some of the questions regarding the observance of Christ's death.
Firstly it is the only anniversary, or observance the Christian Bible commands a Christian to commemorate, or celebrate: "Keep doing this in remembrance of me."-Luke 22:19.
That Jesus didn't have to literally say this was to be a yearly celebration but that it was implicitly implied can be seen in when and how he initiated the special event.
Firstly, when did it happen? It was on the night of Passover, Nisan 14, 33 C. E. Now if you recall Passover is called just that because it is the night the angel of death passed over the houses of the Israelites in Egypt when all the firstborn of Egypt were put to death. Only those who had the blood of the lamb sprinkled on their doorposts did the angel pass over their house.
The blood of the lamb represented the blood that the Lamb Jesus Christ was to pour out on behalf of all humankind that puts faith in his ransom sacrifice.
The Israelites were told to celebrate the Passover during the week of unleavened bread which started on Nisan 14. And they celebrate this day even today!
Now before Jesus started the observance of his death he first celebrated the Passover with his chosen apostles. The 12 were with him, but he dismissed Judas before celebrating. Then after celebrating the Passover he then commemorated the Lord's evening meal. When he told his followers to "keep doing this" he was replacing the Passover celebration for the commemoration of his death.
So true Christians who are taken into the New Covenant are commanded to observe Christ's death every year on Nisan 14. It is a yearly observance, just as was the Passover.
Today when does a new day start? It is as 12AM, in the middle of the night. During Jesus' time, the day started at sundown. So Jesus waited until the sun had set before celebrating the Passover. The next day it was still Nisan 14 until sundown. By then Jesus had been hung on the stake, murdered, taken down and buried. For it was not lawful to keep a man hanging until sundown.