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originally posted by: Stevenmonet
a reply to: bastion
Wow you are way smarter than I am, yet it seems we are both Intrigued by this simple yet seemingly complex paradox caused by what I believe is falsely assuming that a cosmological model based on infinite expansion should be mutaullay exclusive to and therefore produce measurably inverse results from one based on infinite contraction. We thought that when measured against observations only one model can be proven correct.
We found that both models produce the same result and both results match the observable universe.
If Infinite contraction and Infinite expansion on a cosmological scale both produce the same results when modeled and both are observed to be correct, then the implication to me is obvious.
If both cosmoligical models are correct as born out by observation then they can not be mutually exclusive.
Therefore the only correct cosmological model in my view would be the perfect combination of the two into one toroidal field running infinitely and in a perfectly ballanced state of both expansion and compression within a finite space.
I'm way to dumb to simplify it into one universal equation such as Einstein's e=mc2, but a toroidal feild is the only cosmological model my simple mind can come up with that combines both apparently mutually exclusive cosmological models Into one unified theory and it is the only model that resolves the false paradox of their producing indistinguishable results.
So yes both models are correct but only partially as we have shown and it is only paradoxical if we fail to realize the implication that the correct cosmological model of the universe is a toroidal feild which is the perfect combination of the two existing models into one fully unified feild in perpetually ballanced flux within a finite space.
For a layman like me to understand just picture the universe as continually being flushed down then spit out by one ginormous black hole contained within a perpetually ballanced unified toroidal shaped field.
Basically in my model zero is the imaginary number in perfect center of the black hole which is at the perfect equator between the north and south poles of the toroidal feild all matter exists in a constant and ballanced state of flux from the south pole to the north transitioning in state gradually from a positive integer to a negative depending on its position from its imaginary neutral state as represented by 0.
Man I hope that makes sense.
To me it is simple 0 is impossible it is imaginary because the space between -.1 and .1 is Infinitely divisible and yet we know there is the exact same amount of units that can be expressed to either side of the imaginary number zero as either negative or positive intigers. Just as one unit almost becomes 0 aka balanced it is instantly 1/2 as far away again, then half that and so on it can never become 0 or even cross over to becoming a negative and yet the information that both negative and positive intigers express exists and this forces us to conceputalize 0 as an actual number or state. The fact that both sides of 0 are expanding infintily at the same rate keeps the whole game going well....infinitely. No units state as a negative or positive intiger can be proven or disproven. The best we can do is imagine a distance from our imaginary number 0 and choose whether we express it as a positive or negative intiger based on our own perception of imaginary zero.
You can say for example I am equidistant from 0 from john and then decide to assign john a negative intiger perfectly opposite yourself as a posotive and from your perspective the math would prove you correct.
John can say the inverse and his math would be correct as well.
When In fact neither of you can truely be correct because 0 is an imaginary number.
Neither of you can ever reach 0 because your distance from it is infinitely divisible. Sense 0 is imaginary, equadistance from zero with another unit aka perfect duality is impossible. Yet without the concepts of zero, perfect dualaity, and negative and positive intigers information can not be shared expressed observed or measured.
The fact that Information exists at all proves that both yourself and john are in a continual and balanced state of both being correct and both being wrong.
This is my last edit I swear. Think of god as zero. It can never be realized yet the existense of information proves it exists, always has, and always will.