Large explosion, buildings damaged in downtown Nashville

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: StratosFear

Lol I just told you to look at Google street in the post you just replied to....

Do you think this second stripe is directly along the very top edge of the RV? Because the lower stripe is the correct stripe. Just measure the distance between windows and top and you will see this is not a stripe at all. It's the edge of camper in shadow; just like the ladder rungs and the vents.

I see what you are saying but I do not agree.

Also replying to your 2nd reply, I believe the RV is closer to a 2000 Thor model and not a 2006 Four Winds, the RV you posted is a bigger model, although VERY similar. The Thor has no lip to create a shadow at the top, that is a stripe in the paint.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

I stand corrected. Didn't know an RV had so many locations. I guess I was thinking a car / truck. I know some collector car restoration guys and they're always worrying about VIN numbers not being available, or mixed serial numbers, so they can't prove the car/truck is truly "stock" as manufactured. They're not as worried about DMV registration as much as they are about being able to truthfully say the car/truck is OEM "stock".

In any case, good info. Thanks!

originally posted by: Bigburgh
Well here it is...

Feds investigate evidence Nashville bomber hunted ‘lizard people,’ other alien beings

Case closed. *sighhhh*
www.wkrn.com...

The sources told ABC News that Anthony Quinn Warner, 63, may have been motivated, at least in part, by “paranoia over 5G technology,” but that they also found writings that contained ramblings about assorted conspiracy theories, including the idea of shape-shifting reptilian creatures that appear in human form and attempt world domination.

I'm not buying it. What if all that is, is just disinformation?

a reply to: StratosFear

I believe the RV was identified pretty early on and is in the early pages of this thread; anyhow the Thor also has the lip as can be seen in online pictures if you Google the model and year you think it is.. Put the lip/gutter/roll, whatever you want to call it, together with the shadows cast from the ladder rungs and the vents, as well as the obvious lip and non-existent second stripe on the passenger side and it is obvious this is not a second stripe seen on the CCTV pic.

Do you think he had a trailer with a second stripe on only the driver's side and not the front back or passenger"s side?
Do you think he only had the lip on the passenger side?

CBS News: Nashville's GF Raised Red Flags

After officers visited Warner's home last August, the police department's hazardous devices unit was given a copy of the police report. During the week of August 26, 2019, they contacted Throckmorton. Police said officers recalled Throckmorton saying Warner "did not care for the police," and that he wouldn't allow Warner "to permit a visual inspection of the RV."
 
Throckmorton disputes that he told police they couldn't search the vehicle. "I have no memory of that whatsoever," he told The Tennessean. "I didn't represent him anymore. He wasn't an active client. I'm not a criminal defense attorney."
 
Throckmorton told the newspaper he represented Warner in a civil case several years ago, and that Warner was no longer his client in August 2019. "Somebody, somewhere dropped the ball," he said.

Interesting- Warrants never seem to be very difficult for the FBI to get when they bother...

a reply to: Chance321

It's distraction more than anything. The police and FBI do not want anyone noticing that they had contact with Warner in August 2019 regarding bomb making, so they will keep feeding the MSM stories about how he hated the police in the 70s, smoked Marijuana, adjusted antennas because he hated 5G, visited "conspiracy" websites, and blew up his dogs.

They will also use this to justify further violations of rights during future investigations, and the average American won't bat and eyelash because one time a terrorist thought "lizard people" existed and he could have killed thousands.

Just watch.

CBS NEWS

his girlfriend told police that he was building bombs in an RV trailer at his residence

An FBI spokesperson confirmed to CBS News that on August 22, 2019, the agency received a request from the Nashville police, "to check our holdings on Anthony Warner and subsequently found no records at all. Additionally, the FBI facilitated a Department of Defense inquiry on Warner at the request of the Metro Nashville Police Department which was also negative."

a reply to: Identified

Here we go again people, our law enforcement dropped the ball again - go figure. Why did it take nearly a week to dig this up and why didn't law enforcement immediately report it. They were sure quick to tell us about his marijuana charges. I realize Law Enforcement can only do so much, but damn they come up with excuses to sneak in to see if people have narcotics why can't they figure out a legal way to spy on a guy who's girlfriend claims he's building bombs?

a reply to: verylowfrequency

Because they are lazy. We pay them way too much and give them way too much latitude to investigate things like this and they still can't get it right.

They are once again in full blown CYA Mode and will start blaming each other for whose fault it was they didn't figure this out earlier.

I'm actually kind of shocked Warner continued with the same basic plan after this which makes me wonder even more about his mental state.

a reply to: Identified
I'm actually amazed. If I had a fight with my girlfriend that resulted in her snitching me off for something as serious as bomb making and cops showed up I would of expected them to interview her and recruit her to present some sort of physical or video evidence or at least follow me around for awhile and make me nervous. If I was the insurance company paying for the damages I just might go after the people who dropped the ball.

a reply to: verylowfrequency


Good point about the insurance. These small little businesses may not have had terrorism insurance at all and unless they rent from a business with a bigger marketplace insurance they may be out of luck. No way the government will pay for dropping the ball however. Warner may not have thought that part of his not hurting anyone all the way through.

a reply to: Identified

Has this event officially been ruled a "terrorist attack"?

Terrorist attack has a fairly narrow definition, and I thought it had to involve intent to create fear. This was just a flashy suicide with a generous side of revenge-paranoia thrown in. Mass destruction maybe, but I don't know if it qualifies as terrorism.

Don't know the answer, just throwing the question out there.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


That will come down to legalities. There are certain characteristics that must be met for it to be considered a terrorist attack. The most ambiguous one is whether it was an effort to coerce the government or civilans to change policy. With the FBI claiming AT&T and 5G then this may already have been met.

I think the most difficult one in this case will be how much property damage there was. I think the threshold is $5 million. They can use loss of business but with the pandemic that might be more difficult.

There also wasn't a huge fire for anyone to claim fire damage under their policy. It will be tricky for many of these businesses.

a reply to: Foundryman

Interesting, indeed. Look at the top, on one there's two blue lines and on the other only one. Looks like there could be a second line in the second pic but it would be at the top and the one in pic one is an inch or two below the top.

Also, what's next to the small window that seems to not be there in the second?

a reply to: TheSpanishArcher

Obviously we're looking at different sides so that's hard to be certain to lock down window configuration as well as air conditioning and top vents, but one is in the bright daylight while the other is a night. In the daylight the extra stripe is not actually a stripe, it is more likely a shadow caused by the gutter blocking the bright sunlight therefore it not clearly the same or different. The shadow conclusion has been repeated by others prior to me in this thread.

Nvm

originally posted by: Chance321

originally posted by: Bigburgh
Well here it is...

Feds investigate evidence Nashville bomber hunted ‘lizard people,’ other alien beings

Case closed. *sighhhh*
www.wkrn.com...

The sources told ABC News that Anthony Quinn Warner, 63, may have been motivated, at least in part, by “paranoia over 5G technology,” but that they also found writings that contained ramblings about assorted conspiracy theories, including the idea of shape-shifting reptilian creatures that appear in human form and attempt world domination.

I'm not buying it. What if all that is, is just disinformation?

Or lazy investigation blaming conspiracy theories. There was an article posted earlier today. Apparently this guy had a girlfriend a year back stating to police she saw him purchasing explosives to put in that RV. FBI admitted he was on their radar for awhile. Leo's screwed the pooch on this and are coming up with every excuse possible.

Example..
amp.theguardian.com...

More than a year before Anthony Warner detonated a bomb in downtown Nashville on Christmas Day, officers visited his home after his girlfriend told police that he was building bombs in an RV trailer at his residence, according to documents obtained by the Associated Press. But they were unable to make contact with him, or see inside his RV.

Officers were called to Pamela Perry’s home in Nashville on 21 August 2019, after getting a report from her attorney that she was making suicidal threats while sitting on her front porch with firearms, the Metropolitan Nashville police department said on Tuesday in an emailed statement.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Identified

Has this event officially been ruled a "terrorist attack"?

Terrorist attack has a fairly narrow definition, and I thought it had to involve intent to create fear. This was just a flashy suicide with a generous side of revenge-paranoia thrown in. Mass destruction maybe, but I don't know if it qualifies as terrorism.

Don't know the answer, just throwing the question out there.

They are saying "domestic terrorism".
Here's another example of it.


Kinda reminds me of the phrase "workplace violence" in previous administrations....

Without going into detail about what I've learned that you might choose to deny regarding the effects of 3-4-5G technology, I am simply responding that you totally ignored the fact that 5G is not the same 'microwaves' used in 4G. Millimeter waves are a game changer especially since little testing has been done on humans. You are surely aware of the beaming technology disparity? C'est la difference. You may not have read the declassified docs CIA released in 2010 about animal testing done apx. 50 years ago in other nations that indicated penetration into interior organs of animals. I have read those documents. US military ceased use of the Active Denial System that had been used to try to squelch crowds in demonstrations.

You claim the vocabulary of the tech industry in your quiver. However, it is real life exposures to 3-4-5G that are the truth or consequences telling death knell to rampant wonton proliferation of wireless tech facilitated by the 1996 Telecomm Act forbidding any complaint about cell tower location due to effects on health and environment. Women seem to be affected more than men.

Have you read George Carlo's book Cell Phones? woke me up big time. FCC's Wheeler felt that he needed a bodyguard in his last meeting with Carlo due to the fact Wheeler withheld the last $5 million that would have allowed the publishing of the shocking results of research not favoring telecomms after forking out $20 million to fund scientific research on the effects of wireless radiation. WiFi spread invisible toxin now polluting ends of the earth, soon 100,000 satellites in space? The latter BTW mostly frig size will only last about 5 years then are trash. Who knows if humanity will last 5 years to need new ones?!

While reading a few older books (this century) you may want to read Devra Davis PhD's book Disconnect that focuses on the disconnection between bona fide scientific research that had been done that should have alerted gov and populace but scientists were short circuited, dismissed, overlooked for future funding when they started whistle blowing on WiFi+.

The truth is out there. Read Merchants of Doubt RE tobacco+ industries brainwashing the public and paying off the Gov. Listen to Barrie Trower, retired Brit military microwave specialist videos warning about declining reproductive capacity& increasing deformities caused by popularly used wireless tech.

The Non Tinfoil Hat Guide to EMF Protection by Nick Pineault is readable by lay persons to help figure out how to try to protect one's self, kids, from the invisible radiation that triggered the writing of Electronic Silent Spring by Katie Singer. First chapter about a CO man who went to college in San Diego, died of brain cancer not long afterwards. His mother an anti wireless activist now. Cancer cluster hushed up in the press, a military type communications tower sited nearby his building.

If books containing material that contradict your beliefs too laborious and excruciating for screen addicted glazed brain waves, check out YouTubes and online writings of Martin Pall, PhD, trained in genetics, physics, biochemistry who has been an invited lecturer on WiFi and 3-4-5G issues in 15 nations.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste! Pls. enlighten yourself by reading info that may be outside your comfort zone-research results not funded by Big Wireless. Have a not too weird new year and may your devices be wired except for emergency usage of wireless. A new paradigm for which we are late for a very important date: preserving our species and ones we are supposed to steward. reply to: Flyingclaydisk

TV news yesterday not only ABC World News this time but CBS announced that not only had Warner been paranoid about perceived adverse effects of 5G technology-he was also fearful of shape shifting reptilian aliens taking over the world!

Oh yeah! stick it to the Reptilians again to divert attention and to seed doubt in the minds of the public about the perp's whistle-blowing about 5G.
The man had worked in several IT jobs, his father had worked for AT&T.

The lizard connection did not make it into the last 5 days news Nashville incident coverage, but hey! some bold investigator found Warner's journal entry some time sin duda that expressed that fear and a fearless reporter thought: might as well stick it right after the 5G paranoid conspiracy concern to make sure John Q and Joe six-pack make the connection of how absurd his alarm about wireless was. Meanwhile the media boast about how trustworthy they are!

Read Toxic Sludge Is Good for You: Lies, Damned Lies and the Public Relations Business to link dots how corps, govs, and media work together to contribute to the slow death of investigative journalism.

“Common Courage’s number one seller blows the lid off of today's multi-billion-dollar propaganda-for-hire PR industry, revealing how public relations wizards concoct and spin the news, organize phony ‘grassroots’ front groups, spy on citizens and conspire with lobbyists and politicians.” goodreads.com Toxic Sludge..by John Stauber, Sheldon Rampton, Mark Dowie.

Dowie BTW co-authored The Nation 2,500 word article reprinted in Washington Post asking how BigWireless brainwashed us into thinking wireless is safe: I cited that elsewhere.
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ABC News citation: Nashville bombing suspect possibly interested in various conspiracy theories: Sources
MEREDITH DELISO and JACK DATE Tue, December 29, 2020, 8:54 PM PST

'Authorities are exploring evidence that Nashville, Tennessee, bombing suspect Anthony Quinn Warner was interested in various conspiracy theories, sources familiar with the investigation told ABC News. The theories include ones involving "lizard people" -- a belief that shape-shifting reptilian creatures appear in human form and are bent on world domination.' clip

a reply to: EarthShine

I started line item by line item response to your post, but opted for a more general response instead.

First, yes, I did omit (intentionally) things like the different frequency specifics from my post. This was in an effort to keep it simple, not to hide anything. But yes, you are correct on the differing frequencies between the various technologies. And yes, millimeter wave technology has the potential to be quite dangerous if used in a focused manner. However, the reason I didn't dwell on this is because the larger point is, any focused RF energy can be, and is, dangerous, not just 5G.

Second, I do not work for the cellular companies, and I am certainly not defending them! Full stop. I actually hate the technology, and I've been pretty clear about my disdain of it throughout my time here on ATS. Again, full stop. If cellular phones disappeared from the face of the earth tomorrow I would be a happy man! It is the most disruptive, annoying and potentially dangerous technology ever developed by mankind. As noted, I do not work for the cellular companies, but what I do actually do for a profession is systems electronics engineering principally in the area of aviation. Many of these systems are land based systems, and as a result I have to deal with cellular systems on a fairly regular basis. I don't like it, but it goes with the territory unfortunately. Not much choice there.

I will look into the books you suggest, but to be perfectly candid I don't really need to go search out books which are filled with doom and gloom about how humans are ruining life on Earth for other humans through technology...I see it every day, up close and personal. All those books will do is make me madder than I already am, and there's not really a damn thing you, I or anyone else can do about it! All that does is makes Rolaids stock go up. Frankly, I have done about the only thing a person can do about it, and that is to move as physically far as practical away from it.

Regarding texts like Toxic Sludge (and a million others like it), one only needs to look into the history of substances like fluoride to get spun up and start running around with their hair on fire shouting about the sky falling. Again, the reality is, you can't really do anything about it, other than avoid it if you choose. Food labels are the same way. Any reasonably educated person should be able to see these things without having to read some book that tells them things they already should know. Look, there will always be "conspiracies", and many of them will be real, others imagined. And hey, it's one of the very reasons why this website exists, right? Conspiracies.

I could go on, addressing media spin doctoring and the like, but again a person would have to be pretty brain dead to not realize this is happening. But I'm not going to do that here in this response, because it goes way off-topic and I'd like to stick to the 5G subject.

As I have noted, 5G technology and any other high energy RF technology can be dangerous. Yes, 5G with it's millimeter wave element is somewhat different, but don't forget 5G isn't the only technology which uses it. Things like airport body scanners and many other sectors use it also. If you eliminate 5G, you're still not getting away from millimeter wave technology (think about that for a moment). So, once again, the whole issue circles back distribution and density, more so than the technology itself. If you were to ask me to vote on cellular distribution and density, I would vote to eliminate ALL of it...forever! Right freaking now! Don't like it, don't want it and don't need it. Period! And, I'm certainly not going to apologize for it or defend it, but unfortunately I do have to state the facts. Are we crystal clear on this now??

You said...

If books containing material that contradict your beliefs too laborious and excruciating for screen addicted glazed brain waves, check out YouTubes and online writings of Martin Pall, PhD, trained in genetics, physics, biochemistry who has been an invited lecturer on WiFi and 3-4-5G issues in 15 nations.

Listen, first off, I take offense at that so don't be surprised when I tell you to... "pound sand into where the sun doesn't shine", okay? Secondly, it's not a matter of 'my beliefs'. If you've been paying attention, you will see all I am stating to you is the cold hard facts of the matter. If cellular ceased to exist tomorrow, the world would be a better place, on this count we agree. However, there is also a list of about 50,000 other things which, if eliminated entirely, would make the world a better place also. And further, I don't need read/watch some guy with a bunch of alphabet soup after his name 'pontificate' on how the world would be a better place without cellular technology...I already know it, first hand! So, you can get off your soapbox now. The facts of the matter are, if you drink too much water it will kill you! (and it really will too) I don't need some professor (who never did anything in his life, but 'pontificate') to tell me that so I can worry about it. I already know it.

Look, here's the bottom line: Should 5G cellular technology exist? If you were to ask me, I'd say "No". Does it exist? Yes. Does the fact that cellular 5G technology exists make it okay from some screwball to go detonate a bomb in downtown Nashville, Tennessee??? Well, you tell me, but if you were to ask me, I'd say..."NO, NO IT DOES NOT!"

In any case, have a Happy New Year!

ETA - Oh, and in case you think I have a bad attitude towards academicians, well, know that my sister, brother in law and my nephew are all PhD "professors", so I've got plenty of first hand experience!