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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: incoserv

Absolutely a promise to wage war. Not World War II-style, but rather unconventional war. The same thing we seen a hundred times since 1945 -- a group with less resources inflicts the death of a thousand cuts on a more powerful opponent.

Cheers


@incoserv: you mean this is infowars? lol seriously though this is informational warfare with some background phyiscal battles. i would put our current situation a notch above the cold war with russia and a day before pearl harbor.


@F2d5thCavv2 the type of warfare you refer to is asymetrical warfare
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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: RsaWarhawk

I think...

And it's highly effective, IMO

You don't fight a superior enemy on their terms, you isolate them and hit them when they are relaxing, taking a nap, eating supper, getting gas etc

Look at those morons in Iraq and how they kept us in a stale mate. MILLIONS of people could march in anything they want and no one could lift a finger to stop it

And then the defections start. The secret wars. 😁
Exactly the sort of thing I'd expect if some suicidal maniac tried something as dangerous and irresponsible as gun laws, socialism, etc

Just a guess/opinion 😌
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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: frogs453

Ok, but what's the solution to that?

Nobody wants to see anyone underrepresented or not treated fairly under the law

If there's a way to artificially boost someone else up without equally artificially impacting someone else I'm all for it

Equality not equity
Equality is beautiful. Equity is violence.

Anyone who doesn't support total and absolute equality under the law is an extreme danger to the Republic
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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: RsaWarhawk

I think...

And it's highly effective, IMO

You don't fight a superior enemy on their terms, you isolate them and hit them when they are relaxing, taking a nap, eating supper, getting gas etc

Look at those morons in Iraq and how they kept us in a stale mate. MILLIONS of people could march in anything they want and no one could lift a finger to stop it

And then the defections start. The secret wars. 😁
Exactly the sort of thing I'd expect if some suicidal maniac tried something as dangerous and irresponsible as gun laws, socialism, etc

Just a guess/opinion 😌


You can really tell you are getting excited about this! It's easy to get excited when you are not the one putting your life on the line!

Let me ask. Have you been in the military?



posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

Every word describes democrats to a T. Probably!

You can't back up one of those statements RE Trump

You're so full of it you stink.

Brainwashed cultists tick me off.
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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

Over 30 years in law enforcement. SRT for 12 of those years. We called it SWAT back in my day, however

I've done my best to share that experience and training with God fearing Patriots in my community. From basic tactics like room clearing, breaking barricades, entry, breaching, taking ground, holding rooms, dominating resistance, hallways, fatal funnels, advancing on fatal funnels, diversiary devices, chemical deterrents. We've sliced more pie than the pilgrims.

If and when the tyrants make their move, well hold up our end around these parts. Taking orders from POTUS only should he decide to actually declare war. If and only if.

And if not, that's fine too.

You and tinkerbell must want to live forever I guess. Shame you don't love something enough to give unconditionally to it, to die for it and to LIVE for it

Just a guess/my opinion
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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 01:48 PM
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Over 30 years in law enforcement. SRT for 12 of those years. We called it SWAT back in my day, however


While it's scary that someone like you can get a job like that, the fact of the matter is yoi have not been in the military, which does not suprise me.


I've done my best to share that experience and training with God fearing Patriots in my community.Β 


Oh please! You are one of these weird, creepy, extreme patriots. Completly brainwashed!


From basic tactics like room clearing, breaking barricades, entry, breaching, taking ground, holding rooms, dominating resistance, hallways, fatal funnels, advancing on fatal funnels, diversiary devices, chemical deterrents. We've sliced more pie than the pilgrims.


But you are a patriot who would die for their country. Well, that's not true really, you are a patriot who would die for the wealthy and powerful who do not give a crap about you! But, you were still not in the military.


If and when the tyrants make their move, well hold up our end around these parts. Taking orders from POTUS only should he decide to actually declare war. If and only if.

And if not, that's fine too.


Rubbish! From your posts it's clear to see you are desperste for a war. I do not know if you just like innocent men, women and children dying, or you have watched to many movies, but it's clear you want it.


You and tinkerbell must want to live forever I guess. Shame you don't love something enough to give unconditionally to it, to die for it and to LIVE for it

Just a guess/my opinion


The sad fact is, chances are, you are older than me. The saying" you get wiser as you get older" is rubbish.

People like you always miss the big picture. You see your country and nothing else. You do not see the big wide world which is out there. We are all bloody humans on this planet, yet, the wealthy and powerful have completly warped your mind that it is sad.

What is a point of America when there is no planet. You think if the world is destroyed, God will save America?

It's extreme patrioism for your country, that you have been conditioned with, that has more chance of destroying this planet than anything else.

Have you actually left America and travelled to other countries to experience different cultures and people?



posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

Put the average SRT trained police officer against your average military soldier and the SRT guy wins in CQB 10/10. It doesn't matter...same team! Both have strengths and weaknesses. Take a SWAT qualified officer and put her in the field and all of a sudden their advantage diminishes.

Regardless, I'm not going to get into a pissing match most rank and file soldiers support Trump, are indeed Patriots and despise socialism/infringement/etc. Don't count on them getting in the way and I won't count on their support

Regardless, it's not needed. They'll follow orders, ask history about that one.

I don't want war. But at some point total war is preferred to appeasement, slippery slopes and tyranny

We've told you all for decades! Death is preferable o tyranny! Live free or die!!!

Besides training and money, I'm old and armored. They call my type "Operation Human Shield"

FYI my patriotism and total willingness to die for my country without question or hesitation is MY CHOICE. No brainwashing needed, I gave myself and my existance to my country and our Constitution WILLINGLY,without reservation or condition. Again I pray you some day know that kind of love and dedication

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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

Sorry I missed the bottom part boss wasn't ignoring it




People like you always miss the big picture. You see your country and nothing else. You do not see the big wide world which is out there. We are all bloody humans on this planet, yet, the wealthy and powerful have completly warped your mind that it is sad.

What is a point of America when there is no planet. You think if the world is destroyed, God will save America?

It's extreme patrioism for your country, that you have been conditioned with, that has more chance of destroying this planet than anything else.

Have you actually left America and travelled to other countries to experience different cultures and people?


I am against the wealthy and powerful, or did you miss that part? Our movement returns power to the people and ensures congress/courts/executive/voters are all constrained by the Constitution alone.

The world has been around 14 billion years. Somehow I suspect it'll go on....

Patriotism doesn't destroy, it PRESERVES that which is worth preserving

No, never left. Unless you count a trip to Niagra falls in Canada which I don't really consider leaving the US albeit on a technicality
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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: JBurns


Put the average SRT trained police officer against your average military soldier and the SRT guy wins in CQB 10/10. It doesn't matter...same team! Both have strengths and weaknesses. Take a SWAT qualified officer and put her in the field and all of a sudden their advantage diminishes.


Sorry, but I disagree. Fighting in a war, is very different to what you are saying. How many people have you killed in your line of work? How many people in your line of work are out to kill you?


Regardless, I'm not going to get into a pissing match most rank and file soldiers support Trump, are indeed Patriots and despise socialism/infringement/etc. Don't count on them getting in the way and I won't count on their support


Trump does not give a crap about you patriots. Leader in the past to not give a crap about patriots. In fact, they do not give a # about veterans, hence the reason they struggle when they come back. But the people you eould die for, stay powerful, stay wealthy, have their nice big houses, and their kids get that education.

Why can't you see this!


Regardless, it's not needed. They'll follow orders, ask history about that one.


Yes, they follow orders, not wuestioningbif it's right or wrong, or sho benafits from it. Why? Because they truely believe they are doing for their country, which is BS!


I don't want war. But at some point total war is preferred to appeasement, slippery slopes and tyranny


I think you do want war. Of course you do mot want to admit it, but it's obvious with the posts you make.


We've told you all for decades! Death is preferable o tyranny! Live free or die!!!



Can you sound anymore brainwashed?


FYI my patriotism and total willingness to die for my country without question or hesitation is MY CHOICE.


It is your choice, as long as you know you are fighting for the rich and powerful, not America itself.


No brainwashing needed


Nope, it's complete brainwashing. You think it's only people in America that are brainwashed by patrioism. It happens all over the world. How do you think the horrible things we see around the world concerning governments is possible?


, I gave myself and my existance to my country and our Constitution WILLINGLY,without reservation or condition.


Now, this is scary!


Again I pray you some day know that kind of love and dedication


I tell you what, there are scientist out there who believe that if there are planets with life on them, there is a good chance that alot of them were destroyed, through wars. The ones that progress, are the ones who get past that dangeruos stage.

And that is us now. We are still primitive in thinking and still deal in tribal warfare. The only way we are going to survive, is for us as a race realising that we are all the same on this planet, and we need to work together to progress.

So, I have a live for the human race, just just one bloody country on this rock.



I am against the wealthy and powerful, or did you miss that part?Β 


Really, you do realise that people who run countries, and those in the givernment are rich and powerful right?



Our movement returns power to the people and ensures congress/courts/executive/voters are all constrained by the Constitution alone.


You think that is going to save this planet? The rich and powerful control this planet, and they control you!


The world has been around 14 billion years. Somehow I suspect it'll go on....


That's because in the past, we did not have weapons that could destroy the planet. Yes, we have had countless wars in the past, but sticks, spears, arrows guns, tanks, small bombs are not going to destroy the planet.


Patriotism doesn't destroy, it PRESERVES that which is worth preserving


Nope extreme patrioism, no matter what country, is bad, and will lead to bad things.


No, never left. Unless you count a trip to Niagra falls in Canada which I don't really consider leaving the US albeit on a technicality


That does not suprise me! You really do not know anything outside the place you were born. Me, from a young age I travelled and visited many places and took in many cultures. No wonder you cannot see other countries as places filled with individuals, who, just like you, are trying to make a good life and bring up their family. This does not just happen in America.



posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: frogs453

Ok, but what's the solution to that?

Nobody wants to see anyone underrepresented or not treated fairly under the law

If there's a way to artificially boost someone else up without equally artificially impacting someone else I'm all for it

Equality not equity
Equality is beautiful. Equity is violence.

Anyone who doesn't support total and absolute equality under the law is an extreme danger to the Republic


Honestly there probably will never be a solution. Things are done here and there to appease the people, but politics is all about the lobbyists and big corps making their money.

My post was a rebuttal. I had posted that Trump is divisive, splitting the country into red and blue, stating he will not help democratic run cities, even though their tax dollars fund the red states, screaming to lock up a Governor who has not been charged with a crime, because she is strong and does not like him. Trying to scare "housewives", trying to scare the suburbs, trying to scare regarding immigration.
Someone responded about how Trump is for all Americans and has done more than anyone else for all Americans.

We're screwed no matter who is in power.



posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 06:10 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris


So Jay , do you Also Consider Socialism , Communism , and Progressivism to be Ideologies of Cult Worship > ? They are , and they do Prey on the Naive People that Buy into their Tripe . If I were Ever to Admit to Anyone my " Cultish " Leanings about any Ideology it would be as a Member of FREE MEN who would Fight Anyone Who would DARE Try and Take their Freedoms Away . That's the Difference Between Us , What Do you BELIEVE In > ?


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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Jay-morris


So Jay , do you Also Consider Socialism , Communism , and Progressivism to be Ideologies of Cult Worship > ? They are , and they do Prey on the Naive People that Buy into their Tripe . If I were Ever to Admit to Anyone my " Cultish " Leanings about any Ideology it would be as a Member of FREE MEN who would Fight Anyone Who would DARE Try and Take their Freedoms Away . That's the Difference Between Us , What Do you BELIEVE In > ?



Most of the world is brainwashed, I have made that pretty much clear for a long time now. We are conditioned to think that there is nothing beyond our countries.

We it be like this forever? If we get past this stage, then it will not be
If we do not get past this stage, then there will always be wars, invasions, the rich and powerful getting more rich and power, while us normal people will give in to there patrioism to keep us in line.

As for Trump, he shows a lot of traits of a cult leader, and if he loses the election, you will see exactly what I mean. The guy craves power, that's it. He fills his followers minds with what they want to hear, hence the reason he is making out he is religous when he obvious is not. Heirs and lies constantly, and his followers ignore this fact.

What he talks, it's all about him. No one else, just him. He cult is getting bigger, and is also reaching outside of America. You had one guy in India who worshipped Trump, and even had a shrine. He died fasting in the hopes trump would recover from the virus. It's madness.

But peoe who are in cults, rarely know what they are doing. I just hope people snap out of it if he loses, but I feel if he loses, we will see trouble and violence in America lime we have never seen before in years

That's my opinion.



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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 07:06 PM
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None. Never discharge my weapon in LOD unless you count destroying sick animals. I'm no killer. Every action I ever took was to preserve life.. my life, innocent lives and even the BG's life. I rarely even hunt unless one of my girls or SIL really want to do it.

A war..maybe that's true. But a civil war would be far more close quarter battle, which 90%+ of our soldiers are not skilled at.

Killing is ugly business, and I don't speak from experience here just common decency. But again sometimes even the most horrific things are better than watching our flag burn, our rights be infringed or having the dense/clueless political class pretending they know best

Trump does care about Patriots. But this is NOT for TRUMP! He isn't our country, just the current CINC. It's for the US, our Constitution, and my children's futures. It's about YOUR rights, your future as well. All of us Jay

You really think living under a tyranny would be all peachy don't you. If things got a little more "social" with strict government control you'd be A-OK with that huh. Who benefits from that? The rich and powerful not us

Government gets away with evil because of one thing...raw power. And when that evil gets unbearable, it's up to a more powerful group to handle them. Thank God we never gave up our guns right?

Interesting point about the alien planets and alien life. That may be the best point you made all day. Not saying that you don't make good points...you do! But the core idea that patriotism is in itself evil is just not true. Although if the destroyed by war alien theory is true, then it is eye opening. I share your love for our people, our species, and would love to see every last soul on this rock live in freedom, enjoy prosperity and chart their own course throughout life freely. No argument there. You falsely assume my love for the US means hatred for others. That my pride in our accomplishments somehow diminishes the accomplishments of others. It does not, in any way

I'm glad you've had the opportunity to travel. I almost took my family on vacation to Germany to see sights and castles and WW2 history back in 2010, but my oldest daughter ended up with the chicken pocks and we ended up taking them to Disney instead when she got better

I don't think less of you for not being an American. I'm sure you have plenty to be proud of, personally and nationally. Just as we do. And being from the UK, we have a shared heritage and are a very similar people. Or were anyway
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posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 07:13 PM
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And yet, Dems could've ran Tulsi and we could've ran Kristi Noem.

Darn we missed out there. Could live with either of those two

Instead, the Dems put the rejected policies of Obama back on the ticket and pick he most obnoxious fool as his running mate thy could just out of spite

Maybe you'd get a less extreme reaction if you all stopped trying to do things that are hugely unpopular. If Biden didn't threaten our gun rights, our free speech, our ability to credibly oppose power (by media corruption and lies) and wasn't the embodiment of radical change do you think anywhere near as many people would oppose the left? Not at all



posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 07:39 PM
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If your argument is that Trump can be petty or childish, then you would be correct

Sadly those are the choices

I love nothing more to cast a vote for Gov. Noem. But she isn't running

So I have to vote for who I feel will best uphold our individual liberties. What other criteria is there?



posted on Oct, 19 2020 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: 19Bones79

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: incoserv

They are getting frustrated with the American people for wanting another four years of Trump.



To be completely honest, most of the rest of the world feels this way.



Oh I know you didn't just worldsplain the situation to me.


They know most of the rest of the world so.....



posted on Oct, 21 2020 @ 08:13 PM
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My Name Is MUD.................



posted on Oct, 24 2020 @ 11:56 AM
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I noticed that China has even some sort of border claims with Russia , there has been some kind of talks that the City of Vladivostok used to be part of China, and now they feel bad about the fact that it is in Russian territory.

China has border disputes about every neighbour country , so adding Russia to this just says how hungry China seem to be . Even thought this Vladivostok talk was not from higher level, nothing much happen there without some sort of green light from the CCP .




This is our land,’ China now claims Russia’s Vladivostok as part of its territory


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