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originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: Identified
In order to keep peace people have to protest peacefully. Burning down towns isn't very peaceful.
originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: highvein
Do you think the police were justified in shooting them because other people were doing some wrong somewhere else?
This wasn't an accidental shooting; he aimed right at the camera man. The news crew wasn't setting fire to anything.
too darn right i find "order vs chaos" reductive!
for one thing, for it to have any semantic value at all, you reduce the protesters to gibbering agents of pure chaos
when they're not.
they're individuals with hopes and dreams and families, and their lives and motivations are every bit as complex as your own.
You may not understand why they're doing what they're doing but you have to understand that they are complex and real human being making value judgements.
This isn't a storybook, this isn't a film for your entertainment.
Not all of those judgements are the right call and i'd never claim that, but just labelling them as, like, tHe FoRcEs Of ChAoS utterly removes and denies them of their humanity, and coincidentally denies you any hope of understanding what's happening here or the rift in or society.
if the cops are Order and the protesters are Chaos, how come every single protest was completely peaceful until the cops showed up and started lobbing tear gas around?
Police don't have the right to tell someone to do something when what that person is doing is a Constitutionally Protected Act.
The point isn't whether he could have killed her or didn't kill her or whether she was putting herself in danger. The point is the police do not have the right or mandate or authority (other than brute force) to stop someone from doing what they have the Constitutional Right to do!
originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: highvein
How exactly were any of these cops stopping the reporter from being hurt or stopping anything from being looted or burned while they were targeting the Press and people on their front porches?
That's right! They weren't. They were picking an easy target that they knew wouldn't do a damn thing to them because they knew these targets weren't a threat.
Using the excuse "they were trying to protect and serve" while violating all our Rights is BS.
originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: highvein
No she shouldn't have. An order isn't lawful just because a cop uttered it.
She was doing a Constitutionally Protected Act.