Stanford study shows Covid-19 less deadly than flu

originally posted by: anonymous1legion
At the moment the figures I've seen suggest a mortality rate of 6% worldwide, with around 2 and a half million tested positive and 156 thousand deaths, obviously more people will be infected as not everyone has or can be tested at the moment,
so it would be fair to say the mortality rate is below 6% but to get a mortality rate below 1% over 20 million people worldwide would have to already be infected,
Is it possible that many are infected? Just not tested yet?

Source for numbers:
Worldwide numbers

Probably FAR more than 20 million have had it.

No one going to watch the information form an Expert on COVID. No comments about this from the victims of panic at all. Why is that?

DID ANYONE listen to that or from the Head of the US Center for the Advancement of Medicine and have any opinion?

originally posted by: Justoneman
Dre Judy Mikovits.

It is time you get educated and she is one of the most qualified of the Scientist on the planet to talk SARS, EBOLA and Vaccination sources for growing the vaccines.
(2 hours but by 22 mins you will know if this information is correct or crap to you)

DR Butar Centers for Advanced Medicine agrees with Dr Mikovits 100% if you want some corroboration:
www.youtube.com...


A you tube I don't know how to load with the address not fitting ATS's acceptable format.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: UKTruth

It's possible the number of infected are much higher and they were asymptomatic. Large scale testing to determine who may have been infected could begin soon, and if it does, it will tell us more. Right now there are just a lot of unknowns. It's very possible it is more infectious, and less deadly than the seasonal flu.

Doesn;t really make any sense. If a large number of people had it and had no symptoms then why all of a sudden did people start dying and being hospitalised?

No one, or very few, in the US had this virus until a couple of months ago. That makes more sense looking at the numbers.

It is simple. It affects the weakest people.

The vast majority of the population can get it and show no symptoms, but there is a small portion who for some reason are affected more by it. Just like how regular flu can kill the elderly and other people who have severe co-morbidities.

We have several observable studies with cruise ships and now the US carrier where we can conclusive see that the majority who were infected were in fact asymptomatic. Some get a little sick like any other common cold. However, it does appear to really push over the edge anyone who is already severely unhealthy.

What these studies are showing us is the lock down is totally unnecessary as most people have probably already been exposed to some degree. What we should be doing is changing habits to protect those who are more at risk. For example, changing practices at nursing homes, etc. Encouraging more hand washing. Putting up glass shields (My local Target put up plexiglass for the registers).

Common sense things.... not blowing up the entire freaking global economy which will cause far more indirect deaths and mayhem.

a reply to: Ringsofsaturn777

You can't calculate an accurate mortality rate, unless you have an accurate count of those who have been infected. We don't.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
a reply to: Ringsofsaturn777

You can't calculate an accurate mortality rate, unless you have an accurate count of those who have been infected. We don't.

I agree but common sense can bring us far. Most ppl who get it have NO symptoms whatsoever therefore never get tested. Most of the rest have only very minor symptoms, so most of them are never tested either. The mortality rate estimates we have been getting are based on confirmed cases. Knowing these things and applying some common sense lets us conclude that the mortality rate is far lower than those estimates.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: SRPrime

Okay let's just play with that date then.
Nineteen weeks and 37,000 dead.
37,000÷ 19= 1,947 dead per week. When did the flu ever kill like that?
In one country.
The reasons for the closures are real. To save lives.
The virus is real and all those dead are real too.
It is ten times deadlier than the flu.

But the death toll didn't start until mid February and that has not been that long.

Typical Flu seasons run from October-April with peaks from Dec.-Feb. That's a total of 7 months. Let's do some math:
7 months x 4 weeks per month (avg) = 28
28 weeks x 1,947 dead per week= 54,516 deaths.

That's pretty much a typical flu season. Stop with the scare tactics. This does not justify shutting down an entire economy which will destroy it and the resulting depression will have far more significant impacts then this will.

But this is a novel virus they say!! The numbers don’t matter, we have to stop it... lol...

Many of us have been saying what the study in the OP finds, this is less dangerous than our common flu, but everyone is worked up into a panic so they can only look to “experts” for guidance. All of whom have agendas and motive to further their cause, and none of them have all the facts to make accurate data, which leaves us just pawns.


a reply to: trollz

a reply to: Ringsofsaturn777

You used the key words "common sense". The problem is that a lot of people, some of which are in control, are not using it.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: trollz

Do over 2,000 people a day die from the flu?
The CDC numbers for flu deaths is 27-65k a year.
The US is already at 37k dead from Covid-19 in just 4 weeks.

Where does that leave your linked analysis?

Gullible. That's what you are.
A narrative has been pushed through the media to get an agenda through under our noses.
As part of that they've purposely lied about the cause of death for thousands.

How come in some countries deaths and infections are few, and in those same countries they media is talking about after lockdown..things like needing a covid19 passport or certificate if you will proving you've had it and beaten it or arent infected?
How come the worst affected are the largest western economies?

If you're too stupid to see the agenda being pushed, nay rammed down your throat, then thats your problem usually..but sadly in this instance stupid gullible people are a problem that affects everyone. Because its through your ignorance, and they'd be hoping the majority are as dumb as you, they will achieve what they want and get away with the biggest crime against humanity in human history.

Natural news claims that the study is flawed, antibody test used in study were from China company that makes unreliable test kits ..and that there is China connections ..

So who is telling truth? what test are reliable and what are not ? too much vagueness with whole covid-19 testing ,PCR or antibody....if we cant trust even test we can get back to square one.

I learned to never beleive any person on here.

This virus IS less deadly than the flu.

All this panic is fake.

Just pick the numbers and x50 to see the real numbers.

Hell, for those 750k that are known there are 37 750 000 who are actually sick.

"The World Health Organization estimates that worldwide, annual influenza epidemics result in about 3-5 million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths."

Current death toll for Coronavirus is 177,688 deaths

And since this is hella innacurate since USA adds lots of dead that are dead not because of the virus we get...

150k deaths since october.

150 thousands for 7 months.

so this means around 250 Thousand dead in about an year.


Oh wait.... What was the flue death numbers again?

If people actually did their own research rather than look around themselves they would know what is the truth.

look at worldometer for the severe cases

57,282 (3%)
Serious or Critical

if we add it to the deaths we can say, what 200k serious cases?

When the flu has 3 million serious cases?


Those days if you die due to any kind of flu they gonna say its convid >.>

a reply to: trollz

I've had a coworker that died from it. The company won't tell us anything but online social media points to him getting it while in the hospital for elective surgery. At least three or four other coworkers have contracted it. Three of whom I was in close contact with. I think I probably contracted it but never showed any symptoms. Likewise a family member, maybe two,had very mild symptoms. It can be a killer or it can be a ghost. Millions have had it with no symptoms and we'll only know once everybody can be tested and the results can be studied.

originally posted by: UKTruth

The death toll started 4 weeks ago.
www.worldometers.info...

Your analysis is bunk.
...
Deaths started 4 weeks ago

Where the hell do you pull your "facts" from? The first post I made in relation to Covid-19 was on the 22nd of January, and at that point there was already around a dozen deaths in Wuhan linked to the virus because it had been spreading for a few weeks before then. We didn't just start counting the death toll a month ago, that is absolute nonsense. All nations recorded the deaths linked to Covid-19 as soon as the outbreak started spreading beyond China. The first case outside of China was reported in Thailand on January 13th.

A comprehensive timeline of the new coronavirus pandemic, from China's first COVID-19 case to the present

a reply to: trollz


those anti body tests have been widely criticized.

If this virus was here back in October, why were there not fatalities or so forth in November?

The US isn't China, there wouldn't be doctors being muzzled and locked up. It would have been news quickly.

I'm amazing people still say the flu is worse... just mindboggling

Stupid claim, and inaccurate... Proof that government funded mouth pieces are just that. Economy will reopen and the elderly will be killed. Off in droves, I bet a year from now, it won’t be talked about.. at all.. sad reality, but life is not fair. That will be the conclusion...

a reply to: trollz

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder

originally posted by: UKTruth

The death toll started 4 weeks ago.
www.worldometers.info...

Your analysis is bunk.
...
Deaths started 4 weeks ago

Where the hell do you pull your "facts" from? The first post I made in relation to Covid-19 was on the 22nd of January, and at that point there was already around a dozen deaths in Wuhan linked to the virus because it had been spreading for a few weeks before then. We didn't just start counting the death toll a month ago, that is absolute nonsense. All nations recorded the deaths linked to Covid-19 as soon as the outbreak started spreading beyond China. The first case outside of China was reported in Thailand on January 13th.

A comprehensive timeline of the new coronavirus pandemic, from China's first COVID-19 case to the present

There were no deaths in January.
The first recorded end of Feb, but the ramp up in deaths didn't really start until well into March.
I am talking about the USA, not global.
www.worldometers.info...

It is fairly obvious that the virus was not really around in the US until February, otherwise we'd have seen more deaths.

originally posted by: mortex

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: trollz

Do over 2,000 people a day die from the flu?
The CDC numbers for flu deaths is 27-65k a year.
The US is already at 37k dead from Covid-19 in just 4 weeks.

Where does that leave your linked analysis?

Gullible. That's what you are.
A narrative has been pushed through the media to get an agenda through under our noses.
As part of that they've purposely lied about the cause of death for thousands.

How come in some countries deaths and infections are few, and in those same countries they media is talking about after lockdown..things like needing a covid19 passport or certificate if you will proving you've had it and beaten it or arent infected?
How come the worst affected are the largest western economies?

If you're too stupid to see the agenda being pushed, nay rammed down your throat, then thats your problem usually..but sadly in this instance stupid gullible people are a problem that affects everyone. Because its through your ignorance, and they'd be hoping the majority are as dumb as you, they will achieve what they want and get away with the biggest crime against humanity in human history.

There are over 300m people living in the US.
The rate of infections per capita is not out of line with other countries. It's lower than Italy, Spain..about the same as France.
At least make an effort to understand the situation before jumping on the grand conspiracy bandwagon.