Sources believe coronavirus outbreak originated in Wuhan lab as part of China's efforts to compete w

a reply to: madmac5150

italians dont smoke????

a reply to: youngjoshua2020

There is no doubt the virus originated from Wuhan.

But, bats and animals, which they claim as the source, in the local markets, are not from Wuhan as such. So, if the animals were the carrier, we would see the virus non-locally spreading uncontrollably. This was the case with the Bird Flu. But in the case of Corona - not. Its origin is very local Wuhan.

So, it is not the animals, but Wuhan. Which leaves the lab as the source.

There is very little doubt about this.

a reply to: youngjoshua2020

and some also believe in the spaghetti monster. yes, maybe something went wrong in wuhan. if it did, we'll never know. getting the WHO into this is cheap propaganda.

there is a list of all known epidemics - and you can already say that corona is one of the most dangerous of modern times. in addition, you also have to consider that the world has changed extremely in the medical field and we have completely different possibilities today than we did decades ago.

en.wikipedia.org...

in the end, it's not about corona, but about trump's army fighting against the rest of the world. what is it about? hard to say. trump is influenced by so many radical forces, christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, conspiracy theorist, fascists... it's always about totalitarianism, the desire for a godlike leader who moves the masses and creates a new world order. trump himself won't care about all that. he's only interested in himself.

corona is probably a natural occurrence, like most epidemics in history. and it is also likely that trump's actions have caused many deaths. but that's nothing new for an american president, right?

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: youngjoshua2020
So this isn’t a “Chinese virus” it’s a global elite government conspiracy.

Who is to say that the global elite are not Chinese?

The 'global' elite are not Chinese.
The 'global' elite have no affiliation any particular nation.

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Agreed. The idea is to infiltrate all world governments.

originally posted by: deckdel
a reply to: youngjoshua2020

There is no doubt the virus originated from Wuhan.

But, bats and animals, which they claim as the source, in the local markets, are not from Wuhan as such. So, if the animals were the carrier, we would see the virus non-locally spreading uncontrollably. This was the case with the Bird Flu. But in the case of Corona - not. Its origin is very local Wuhan.

So, it is not the animals, but Wuhan. Which leaves the lab as the source.

There is very little doubt about this.

You make a very simple logical point I failed to consider, thanks. It makes total sense that if this were a natural mutation found in a wild game market, that the source would be out in the rural areas where the game was first captured and then transported to the market. So why didn't the outbreak occur where the infected animals were trapped before they made the market?

Of course, the wild game hunters who may have contracted the virus first could live in Wuhan near the market, but it seems they would have spent more time at their base in their hunting areas, like a local village or large communal camp site.

I never did buy the early reports as far back as October of last year, about this Chinese wet market virus outbreak. Once the fact that this bio-lab was near the market, it became clear to me what was really going on.

The Fox News article quotes ‘sources’ as it’s only source and doesn’t name one of them.

In that same frame ‘sources’ have told me it originated on mars and fell in the rain..

you see the problem with having no valid ‘sources’ it reads like anti-China propaganda without factual basis. I’m not saying it is or isn’t true, just if you quote ‘sources’ let us know who they are and how they are qualified to comment.

I thought there was a story that some of the lab workers were supposed to destroy the lab animals that they were testing the virus on instead took them across the street and sold them in the market. It was early in the panic and not sure if it was ever substantiated

originally posted by: deckdel
a reply to: youngjoshua2020

There is no doubt the virus originated from Wuhan.

But, bats and animals, which they claim as the source, in the local markets, are not from Wuhan as such. So, if the animals were the carrier, we would see the virus non-locally spreading uncontrollably. This was the case with the Bird Flu. But in the case of Corona - not. Its origin is very local Wuhan.

So, it is not the animals, but Wuhan. Which leaves the lab as the source.

There is very little doubt about this.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: youngjoshua2020

This has been debunked over and over again. The genome for covid 19 has been cracked and shared to thousands of labs. It shows no evidence of any kind of manipulation, literally nobody has found even the slightest hint. And it is a terrible bio weapon. TBH if this was cooked up in a lab in China then the Chinese are no threat whatsoever as they are clearly incompetent. The Japanese were weaponizing plague in the 1930s and in 2020 all China can do is make the elderly and chain smokers sick?

Show me evidence of genetic manipulation or hybridisation, or go home.

This is just a conspiracy to cover up the fact that we were too slow to react to the common V2.0

I think its highly plausible that it was not designed "as a weapon", but did originate at the lab, during the Wuhan lab's research into bat coronaviruses. They were collecting them from nature, and manipulating them to various ends.

Its not necessarily intended as nefarious. They make them infective to humans, or find variations that are infective to humans, for research into defending againat them, for example. However, they're also reckless and incompetent, with previous known leaks of SARS-CoV from research into the (2003?) strain.

Also, it makes a lot more than the elderly and chain smokers sick. While it doesn't seem to be as serious as originally thought, posting falsifications about who it makes sick only serves to discredit your other points.