What if.

a reply to: DBCowboy

DB your post was the perfect answer!

The only way UBI would work is if there was one world currency and one world government, because then the money could be printed/created from thin air without driving down its value because there is nothing to compare it with.

So basically if you are asking for UBI, then you are actually asking for one world government, if you are capable of thinking past the next five minutes of your life. YOLO!

a reply to: IAMTAT

I was 15 and chose to run away from a very physically and sexually abusive home.

My choice.

a reply to: NoConspiracy

sounds like the only motivation we have to keep our society running is money.

Sad but true.

Did native americans have a fiat currency system?
I wonder what their motivation to work was?
I wonder how happy they were?

a reply to: scraedtosleep

First thing that would happen is the prices on everything will go up. A huge chunk of lazys will quit working. Will be a damned nightmare.

originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: scraedtosleep

Will be a damned nightmare.

So you believe.

Currently everything is in chaos. We already know that the fiat system doesn't work. Our currency is worth less now then ever and will one day be worth nothing. Inflation will continue.
Now's as good a time as any to try something new. If not the ubi then something.

Should we continue the system as it is?

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: NoConspiracy

sounds like the only motivation we have to keep our society running is money.

Did native americans have a fiat currency system?

Wampum

I wonder what their motivation to work was?

The same as everyone else.

I wonder how happy they were?

The same as everyone else.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: IAMTAT

I was 15 and chose to run away from a very physically and sexually abusive home.

My choice.

A home can't be physically and sexually abusive, only people. I guess if it was haunted but nobody would believe it. I don't even think horror movies have hit on ghosts doing that stuff.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: NoConspiracy

sounds like the only motivation we have to keep our society running is money.

Sad but true.

Did native americans have a fiat currency system?
I wonder what their motivation to work was?
I wonder how happy they were?

Some people are idiots. Their motivation to work was so they wouldn't starve to death or be eaten by predators, and so they would have shelter and clothes, just like every non-lazy ass human that came before and after them. I am sure their life was glorious like one endless #ing camping trip. LOL!

a reply to: FauxMulder

So your saying that it's possible to be happy and productive with a system other than fiat money?

a reply to: scraedtosleep

No. I said your comparison to Native Americans was not a good one.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: IAMTAT

I was 15 and chose to run away from a very physically and sexually abusive home.

My choice.

TY.
So you hold yourself (and your parents) responsible for your "very hard life on the streets".
Why is it the government's and not your own responsibility (or your parents') to better your situation?

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: FauxMulder

So your saying that it's possible to be happy and productive with a system other than fiat money?

Are you saying your UBI wouldn't come from fiat money?

originally posted by: MRinder

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: FauxMulder

So your saying that it's possible to be happy and productive with a system other than fiat money?

Are you saying your UBI wouldn't come from fiat money?

Drum Roll! and the reply will be "No It Comes from Ferrari money."

a reply to: IAMTAT

I never said it was their responsibility.

But if they do and it worked and we all were happier for it that would be a good thing right?

a reply to: FauxMulder

Do you think it's possible to be happy and productive with a different economic system than the one (fiat) we have?

a reply to: IAMTAT

I would have to keep working to live my level of comfort even with a ubi.

It's that extra work for more comfort that betters my situation.
The ubi would just take the stress off. Meaning I could be more productive in the long run.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

A million bucks for everyone!!!

Just create UBI bonds,

Would be a lot entertaining that the crow disease.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: IAMTAT

I never said it was their responsibility.

But if they do and it worked and we all were happier for it that would be a good thing right?

YOU are saying the government should take responsibility for your wellbeing...after you admitted you and you alone ("My choice")…were responsible for your "very hard life on the streets".

a reply to: scraedtosleep

I think it's possible to be happy and productive in any system where individual freedom / responsibility is the main tenet.

originally posted by: MRinder

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: FauxMulder

So your saying that it's possible to be happy and productive with a system other than fiat money?

Are you saying your UBI wouldn't come from fiat money?

That is a problem but at least we are starting to agree that fiat money needs to be changed.