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There's no god in the delusion.

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posted on Mar, 18 2020 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: vethumanbeing

I don’t think your comprehension of God is fair or accurate
You choose, He doesn’t, He just allows you to choose
It’s your strong delusion, just as it was Pharaohs to not release the slaves.

This entire 'slave' fallacy is just that; not true. However; the technology and knowledge that was stolen from the Egyptians by their AirBnB 'guests' is true (and we are not talking hairdryers and mattresses).
edit on 18-3-2020 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)




posted on Mar, 18 2020 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Raggedyman
God is said to be all powerful...... so what power do you think you have?

To this point; God created man, of course he has greater power.



posted on Mar, 19 2020 @ 12:08 AM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Raggedyman
God is said to be all powerful...... so what power do you think you have?

To this point; God created man, of course he has greater power.


Parents create their children, doesn’t mean they control them forever
But, whatever you want



posted on Mar, 19 2020 @ 12:26 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain




God is not a person or any thing.
God is the field and no apparent thing has volition.

Do waves have control/freewill or is the ocean waving?


What kind of Effed up doctrine is this?

Does scripture mean anything to you?



posted on Mar, 19 2020 @ 02:52 AM
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a reply to: carsforkids
It is not a doctrine...... it is a question.

Do waves have freewill or is the ocean waving?



posted on Mar, 19 2020 @ 03:05 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: carsforkids
It is not a doctrine...... it is a question.

Do waves have freewill or is the ocean waving?



It looks more like an attempt that failed



posted on Mar, 19 2020 @ 03:07 AM
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originally posted by: carsforkids

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: carsforkids
It is not a doctrine...... it is a question.

Do waves have freewill or is the ocean waving?



It looks more like an attempt that failed

Is the question so difficult that you have no answer?



posted on Mar, 19 2020 @ 03:08 AM
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originally posted by: carsforkids

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: carsforkids
It is not a doctrine...... it is a question.

Do waves have freewill or is the ocean waving?



It looks more like an attempt that failed

Attempt at what?
Failed to what?



posted on Mar, 19 2020 @ 04:22 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain




Is the question so difficult that you have no answer?


Absolutely!



posted on Mar, 19 2020 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Raggedyman
God is said to be all powerful...... so what power do you think you have?

To this point; God created man, of course he has greater power.


Parents create their children, doesn’t mean they control them forever
But, whatever you want

Why is this concept so difficult to understand. God is both Parent and Child experiencing ITSELF. All behavior is allowed. The growth of the system is the primary objective. Achievement can occur with a positive or negative circumstance, nothing is wrong or 'bad'.
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posted on Mar, 20 2020 @ 12:32 AM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing nothing is wrong or 'bad'.


That’s your opinion, I disagree



posted on Mar, 20 2020 @ 04:48 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: vethumanbeing nothing is wrong or 'bad'.


That’s your opinion, I disagree

Do not judge, or you will be judged.

Bad and wrong are judgement.

What is IS.
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posted on Mar, 20 2020 @ 08:22 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: vethumanbeing nothing is wrong or 'bad'.


That’s your opinion, I disagree

Do not judge, or you will be judged.

Bad and wrong are judgement.

What is IS.


What, you preaching your version of christianity at me
That’s dumb, moronic

Suits you though🦄🌈💃🦄



posted on Mar, 20 2020 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman
Are you a Christian?



posted on Mar, 20 2020 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

I will let God decide that
You, your opinion, of no importance in the great scheme



posted on Mar, 20 2020 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Itisnowagain

I will let God decide that

Yep God decides everything, everything action....no freewill for you to decide for yourself.



posted on Mar, 20 2020 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: vethumanbeing nothing is wrong or 'bad'.


That’s your opinion, I disagree

That you *just* disagree is not enough. Explain yourself as to how you come to this thinking.



posted on Mar, 20 2020 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: vethumanbeing nothing is wrong or 'bad'.



Raggedyman: That’s your opinion, I disagree


Itisnowagain: I Do not judge, or you will be judged.

Totally got the 'judgey' dismissive vibe. Someone has a belief system unwilling to defend.
edit on 20-3-2020 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2020 @ 05:38 AM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

The quotation in the OP is from 2 Thess 2:11,12. 2 Thess 2:1-12 concerns “the man of lawlessness”, an expression used by the apostle Paul at 2 Thessalonians 2:2, 3 in warning of the great anti-Christian apostasy.

Other forecasts of this apostasy were made by the apostles Paul and Peter both verbally and in writing, and the Lord Jesus Christ himself warned of its coming. In his illustration of the wheat and the weeds (Mt 13), Jesus said that the Devil would sow “weeds,” imitation Christians, “sons of the wicked one,” among the “wheat,” the “sons of the kingdom.” These would exist until the conclusion of the system of things, when they would be identified and ‘burned up.’

The “man” of 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 is therefore not an individual, but a composite “man,” a collective group, as these scriptures also show: Ac 20:29, 30; 1 Timothy 4:1-3; 2Ti 4:3, 4; 2Pe 2:1-3.

In the days of the apostle Paul, there was “mystery,” or a religious secret, about the identity of this “man of lawlessness.” To this day mystery shrouds his identity in the minds of many persons, because his wickedness is practiced under the guise of godly devotion. (2Th 2:7) By his lying teachings contrary to or superseding, as it were, the law of God, “the man of lawlessness” sets himself up over Jehovah God and other ‘gods,’ mighty ones of the earth, and also against God’s holy ones, true spiritual brothers of Jesus Christ. (Compare 2Pe 2:10-13.) Since he is a hypocrite, a false teacher claiming to be Christian, he “sits down in the temple of The God,” that is, what such false teachers claim to be that temple.​—2Th 2:4.

Following the apostles’ death, “the man of lawlessness” came out into the open with his religious hypocrisy and false teachings. (2Th 2:3, 6, 8) According to Paul’s words, this “man” would gain great power, operating under Satan’s control, performing “every powerful work and lying signs and portents.” Persons deceived by the operation of the composite “man of lawlessness” are referred to as “those who are perishing [literally, “destroying themselves”], as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved.” The apostle shows that they “get to believing the lie” and they will all “be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.” (2Th 2:9-12)

2Thess. 2:1-12 concerns teachers within Christendom (the religions that falsely profess to be Christian) with teachings such as these:

The text you quoted in the OP (2 Thess 2:11,12) concerns those who have taught you the type of things as mentioned in the video above. Or any of the teachings that contradict the Bible as shown in this playlist:

He is a liar! (part 1 of 2)
edit on 21-3-2020 by whereislogic because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2020 @ 05:50 AM
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There Is A Chain Of Command.
Rise Up Through The Ranks And See...
Either You Are God's Second In Command, Or You Become The Godhead...

Til Then... Know That Silence Is Golden.

ETA:
Doesn't It Bug And Annoy You That We... Who Did Not Have A Hand In The Creation Of Anything In The Universe Possess So Great An Arrogance As To Think And Bend Our Minds Into Thinking That We Can Know All Things Of God. Based On Our Own Ideas And So-Called Freewill. We Are Due To Die.
That Is Our Legacy. Some One Greater Than Us Has Doomed Our Entire Existence. This Is No Coincidence.



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