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As a United States citizen... why should I be subject to firearms laws of California,

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posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 10:37 PM
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...New Jersey, New York, Maine...

I should be free to carry, and arm myself in all 50 states of this nation. It should be one of the instances federal law trumps local law.


If I want to conceal carry in California, then I should be allowed to.

California is not it's own country.

Prime example of when federal law needs to trump local law.




posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: EternalSolace

I've wondered that myself..

How do states legalize a federally illegal drug?


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posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 10:44 PM
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The only reason any US citizen would be subjected to california laws is.....

If they are dumb enough to live in california.

It's literally a commie stronghold in the US.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: EternalSolace

I've wondered that myself..

How do states legalize a federally illegal drug?


How do states criminalize firearm ownership?



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 10:46 PM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock
The only reason any US citizen would be subjected to california laws is.....

If they are dumb enough to live in california.

It's literally a commie stronghold in the US.


I should be allowed as a Kentucy resident to open carry my AR-15 into a theater in California and not be labeled a criminal just because California said so...



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 10:47 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: MisterSpock
The only reason any US citizen would be subjected to california laws is.....

If they are dumb enough to live in california.

It's literally a commie stronghold in the US.


I should be allowed as a Kentucy resident to open carry my AR-15 into a theater in California and not be labeled a criminal just because California said so...


Sure, but the better question is "what are you doing in california?"

Why would you step foot in that #hole?



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: MisterSpock
The only reason any US citizen would be subjected to california laws is.....

If they are dumb enough to live in california.

It's literally a commie stronghold in the US.


I should be allowed as a Kentucy resident to open carry my AR-15 into a theater in California and not be labeled a criminal just because California said so...


Sure, but the better question is "what are you doing in california?"

Why would you step foot in that #hole?


In all reality, I personally wouldn't. Doesn't mean I can't raise the issue for those who have purpose to be there.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 10:54 PM
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Because it is the UNITED States of America. It is, essentially, a coalition of independent state governments that agree to share the collective burden of a republic. Each state has it's own govt, and can enact their own laws for their citizens. However, no law in any state is supposed to contradict the ultimate laws, the U.S. Constitution. This is where the SCOTUS comes in to determine if a law is constitutional or not, and to rule for or against it based upon that fact.

Also, it was one of the biggest reasons, IMO, president Trump was elected. To prevent the Democratic party the ability to appoint 2-6 new supreme court justices over the 4-8 year term(s).



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:00 PM
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Or as a US citizen, why should anyone be subject to firearm laws?

-aside from being convicted of serious gun crimes




posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace
...New Jersey, New York, Maine...

I should be free to carry, and arm myself in all 50 states of this nation. It should be one of the instances federal law trumps local law.


If I want to conceal carry in California, then I should be allowed to.

California is not it's own country.

Prime example of when federal law needs to trump local law.


Fed law always trumps state law. Not sure what your beef is.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:21 PM
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originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: EternalSolace
...New Jersey, New York, Maine...

I should be free to carry, and arm myself in all 50 states of this nation. It should be one of the instances federal law trumps local law.


If I want to conceal carry in California, then I should be allowed to.

California is not it's own country.

Prime example of when federal law needs to trump local law.


Fed law always trumps state law. Not sure what your beef is.


Not true at all.

A basic civics class is in order for you.




posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:22 PM
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Or, you could just do it anyway. OUTLAW!



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:24 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: EternalSolace
...New Jersey, New York, Maine...

I should be free to carry, and arm myself in all 50 states of this nation. It should be one of the instances federal law trumps local law.


If I want to conceal carry in California, then I should be allowed to.

California is not it's own country.

Prime example of when federal law needs to trump local law.


Fed law always trumps state law. Not sure what your beef is.


Not true at all.

A basic civics class is in order for you.



Which is why i always suggest people move to a "better" state. There are plenty, especially compared to california(possibly the WORST state).

Reward good states by moving to them, bringing your production or taxmoney(or both) and shunning those that want to dive further into #hole status.

If a company called me tomorrow and offered my 500K a year to work(and move to) california, i'd laugh at them.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:25 PM
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Communities can limit the open carrying of firearms in the city or a legit community. The reasoning is that a person carrying a rifle or handgun down the street scares other people, those other people have rights to feel safe.

It is legal to own firearms and to use them to protect oneself and to fight off a crooked government if it ever becomes that way. It is not legal to go shoot up the neighborhood or the government if they are not infringing on our personal rights. I have not seen the government abuse their power yet to justify us taking over the government.. Just try to elect people who will protect our rights and do not follow in the footsteps that some states are in, we need to make sure our personal rights are protected by electing people who will not take away our rights.

As law abiding citizens we should have the right to choose our own health treatments, we should never give up our right to protect ourselves by giving up our rights to bear arms. We should force the government to investigate the additives used on our foods and make them eliminate any that are harming people. We should respect the rights of all citizens, I mean citizens. Illegals have some rights, but not the right to live here illegally. They should get legal.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: EternalSolace
...New Jersey, New York, Maine...

I should be free to carry, and arm myself in all 50 states of this nation. It should be one of the instances federal law trumps local law.


If I want to conceal carry in California, then I should be allowed to.

California is not it's own country.

Prime example of when federal law needs to trump local law.


Fed law always trumps state law. Not sure what your beef is.


Not true at all.

A basic civics class is in order for you.



Which is why i always suggest people move to a "better" state. There are plenty, especially compared to california(possibly the WORST state).

Reward good states by moving to them, bringing your production or taxmoney(or both) and shunning those that want to dive further into #hole status.

If a company called me tomorrow and offered my 500K a year to work(and move to) california, i'd laugh at them.


My state is open carry without a permit, concealed carry without a permit outside of a city or logging camp.

You have to check your weapon at the door in a bar or casino.

I see no problem with this.

I picked the right state to live in though.

Vote with your feet...

The whole idea behind State's rights.




posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:34 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: EternalSolace
...New Jersey, New York, Maine...

I should be free to carry, and arm myself in all 50 states of this nation. It should be one of the instances federal law trumps local law.


If I want to conceal carry in California, then I should be allowed to.

California is not it's own country.

Prime example of when federal law needs to trump local law.


Fed law always trumps state law. Not sure what your beef is.


Not true at all.

A basic civics class is in order for you.



I enjoy your posts. And enjoy you as a poster.

Do you really want to disagree with the statement that federal law always trumps state law?



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:39 PM
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Because the legal relationship between that state, it's neighbor states, and the federal government no longer operate as originally intended.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:46 PM
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States rights.

It sucks sometimes and I dont like some of them, but I fully support the fact that states have the supreme right to govern their people and their constituents (in theory), over people in DC who dont live there and have no idea the issues that afflict the people uniquely of that state.

That being said, my sadness comes at the fact that not only do our elected officials in DC not do the bidding of the people who elected them, for many states its the same thing.



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 11:55 PM
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originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: EternalSolace
...New Jersey, New York, Maine...

I should be free to carry, and arm myself in all 50 states of this nation. It should be one of the instances federal law trumps local law.


If I want to conceal carry in California, then I should be allowed to.

California is not it's own country.

Prime example of when federal law needs to trump local law.


Fed law always trumps state law. Not sure what your beef is.


Not true at all.

A basic civics class is in order for you.



I enjoy your posts. And enjoy you as a poster.

Do you really want to disagree with the statement that federal law always trumps state law?


Ask abortion law states.

Ask legal marijuana states.

Ask gun law states.

The 10th Amendment isn't exactly dead yet.




posted on Nov, 2 2019 @ 12:07 AM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: EternalSolace
...New Jersey, New York, Maine...

I should be free to carry, and arm myself in all 50 states of this nation. It should be one of the instances federal law trumps local law.


If I want to conceal carry in California, then I should be allowed to.

California is not it's own country.

Prime example of when federal law needs to trump local law.


Fed law always trumps state law. Not sure what your beef is.


Not true at all.

A basic civics class is in order for you.



I enjoy your posts. And enjoy you as a poster.

Do you really want to disagree with the statement that federal law always trumps state law?


Ask abortion law states.

Ask legal marijuana states.

Ask gun law states.

The 10th Amendment isn't exactly dead yet.



Its dead to liberals who use Federal Courts to FORCE their opinions upon various state populations who maintain other opinions such as constitutional carry, abortion, property rights and a slew of other subjects using federal supremacy as a basis.




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