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originally posted by: Extorris
originally posted by: shooterbrody
originally posted by: Extorris
a reply to: shooterbrody
No vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry because there are no rules or constitutional requirement to hold a vote.
This line of defense by Trump and ilk is without a premise.
so trump made pelosi have the presser and make that statement?
Please quote her. Be precise and full.
Then explain to me what you have been told to think it means.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Gryphon66
So, yes, not every matter that comes for impeachment is "a crime" as ignorantly stated previously.
lying to congress is a crime, and was back then
it is commonly called perjury
wherein it was stated on the authority of common rumor
sorry for your confusion
also you can keep pretending the house did not take votes to begin the process with nixon or clinton, but the house dems do so at their peril
americans are actually fair minded and in a serious situation like this will seek for the process to be above board
originally posted by: shooterbrody
originally posted by: Extorris
originally posted by: shooterbrody
originally posted by: Extorris
a reply to: shooterbrody
No vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry because there are no rules or constitutional requirement to hold a vote.
This line of defense by Trump and ilk is without a premise.
so trump made pelosi have the presser and make that statement?
Please quote her. Be precise and full.
Then explain to me what you have been told to think it means.
oh i did in the op
originally posted by: Extorris
Both Nixon and Clinton impeachment inquires were voted on, but there was not requirement to vote on the inquires. It was political messaging.
There is absolutely ZERO constitutional or legal requirement that the house vote to begin impeachment proceedings.
The responses by the WH in refusing to abide to congressional Subpoenas is simple and effective rhetorical delay tactics. No one is confused about the constitutional legitimacy of the Subpoenas, they just understand that enforcement is a long legal process for congress. The House can enforce through the courts, but it would take many months if not a year plus and impeachment proceedings should be expeditious in order to afford the accused a chance to respond in the Senate.
After the Mueller Report was released and the special counsel himself had finally testified before Congress, House Democrats were deeply divided on whether to “initiate” impeachment proceedings, with Pelosi and House Judiciary Committee chairman Jerrold Nadler voicing reluctance to go in that direction. Then, in what was either a clever or devious maneuver, depending on your point of view, Nadler let it be known in early August that his committee was already engaged in an impeachment “inquiry,” as CNN explained at the time:
As additional House Democrats continue to call for the House Judiciary Committee to launch an impeachment inquiry — which more than half the caucus now supports — Democratic sources say the issue is essentially moot since what the panel is doing is basically that: investigating whether Trump should be impeached.
As I noted at the time, “According to this interpretation of the situation, there’s no need to ‘launch’ anything, or to put House Democrats on the spot with some vote to begin ‘proceedings’ that are already underway.” House Republicans might (and did) complain that a vital step had been left out, but there wasn’t much they could do about it.
originally posted by: carewemust
Wow, Adam Schiff is really putting the screws to Witnesses in his secret interrogation room!
Check out this excerpt from a leaked transcript.
www.washingtonexaminer.com...
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: shooterbrody
You're quoting fake news CNN in your OP.
Also, you have listed no quote from Pelosi in your OP.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: shooterbrody
You're quoting fake news CNN in your OP.
Also, you have listed no quote from Pelosi in your OP.
yep
figured you would need a source YOU trust
In a secret interview, Rep. Adam Schiff, leader of the House Democratic effort to impeach President Trump, pressed former United States special representative to Ukraine Kurt Volker to testify that Ukrainian officials felt pressured to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter as a result of Trump withholding U.S. military aid to Ukraine. Volker denied that was the case, noting that Ukrainian leaders did not even know the aid was being withheld and that they believed their relationship with the U.S. was moving along satisfactorily, without them having done anything Trump mentioned in his notorious July 25 phone conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Extorris
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