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posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Man as a whole has rejected God, so he stands back and lets them have it their way read Romans 1:18-32 If you think it is bad now just wait until the Body of Christ is removed from the earth. It will be a real hell for those here during the Great Tribulation.


you cant preach about love and compassion and then act all smug and superior about the apocalypse. either you believe in salvation or you believe in revenge. not both.


It's not revenge.

The restrainer is the Holy Spirit. It's the little voice in all of us that curbs our worst impulses whether or not we acknowledge it. Yes, even you.

We all have our darker impulses -- those times when maybe you're driving and someone tailgates you and in the back of your mind it whispers, "What if I slammed on my brakes right now? That'd serve that jack@ss right!" But the better angels of your nature help restrain you both because you know it's not right and because you know it'd be stupid.

The "better angels of your nature" are the Holy Spirit. What happens when it's gone from the earth? What happens when there are no "better angels" for anyone?

How much worse does it get?

And the reference above is about what happens to those who have wholly and consciously embraced the Holy Spirit. It was promised to them that they not be abandoned, so if the Holy Spirit goes out of the world, so will they. It will be one of the first obvious signs the world is headed for real disaster.




posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 06:38 PM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: TzarChasm

You should ask yourself why we're allowed free will. If only love existed, we would have all been created to live in Heaven doing God's will from the beginning without being given free will and the ability to sin. It doesn't sound like you've thought that through very well. God loves everyone, but he's not going to interfere with your free will to choose to accept Him or reject Him...the way He is, not the way you want Him to be.



less lives lost, less blood shed, less chaos endured

the cost of free will is millions souls, and the alternative is to stop playing cruel games with ants and get a real job

either cancel revelations or cancel free will, to do anything else is to take a giant steaming crap on mankind just to make a point

any choice that results in suffering is the wrong choice, especially when you are all powerful and can do literally anything you imagine



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

Well, there's a reason God said that his thoughts were higher than our thoughts and his ways were higher than our ways. It's real easy for us to speculate on what we would do if we were God, but we don't know everything he knows in order to make an informed decision either.

Now you have me thinking, what if. If evil never existed, would we appreciate God? Would we learn anything? Would it matter? So many questions.



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

Cancel free will? So you want to be forced to love and acknowledge God? Somehow, I think you'd be just as sour over that as the current situation.

If you're angry at God, then you'll be angry no matter what He does, and this is why the current situation exists. God has better things to do than bother with creating perfection for those who will shun it.



posted on Aug, 15 2019 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: TzarChasm


you cant preach about love and compassion and then act all smug and superior about the apocalypse. either you believe in salvation or you believe in revenge. not both.


Deuteronomy 32:35

35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

Romans 12:19

19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.



Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 1 Corinthians 13:4-5


love does not test you for your loyalty or threaten you into submission, it does not make deals for your soul or punish you for disappointing it, it does not make doomsday schemes or play chess with the forces of evil to see who is more clever. love does not gamble with your life, love does not demand sacrifice and penance, love does not force you to serve or to beg, love does not humiliate or enslave, love does not abuse authority or demand respect

love is none of these things


One can't be threatened into submission.
God gave his only begotten son as a ransom for your sins.
Those who do not love live in darkness with the fear of death.



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