F-19?

originally posted by: PhantomTwo
a reply to: muzzleflash

It’s not an open & shut case. It has a mention of Photoshop in the metadata but it doesn’t return any abnormalities on the analysis.

The analysis should show something.

I'm not an expert on photo analysis but I've seen quite a few examples of it here on ATS and usually there's a cut/paste indication by a box or rectangle where the added image is inserted.

I agree I don't see any anomaly where the 2 jets are located so I thought that was odd too. I expected there to be an obvious marking there showing the insertion.

a reply to: PhantomTwo

But the pure fact it shows Photoshop in the metadata is so suspicious that we simply cannot accept this photograph as is. We need to find the source and get an unedited photo to examine.

Even if it's real, whoever passed it to us screwed up the chain of evidence by putting it through photoshop.

If you cannot read the print on it, try this link - the print's bigger and easier to read.
RF-19 Info page

Btw it says the height was maximum 13 ft 2 in.

The source is a book called "The Defenders" from 1988 according to the guy who linked it.

a reply to: PhantomTwo

Oh and supposedly the Phantom II 's original name was going to be the Spectre.

Just thought you'd like to know that since it's your name.

The first model I built as a kid was an F-4 and it was my favorite jet for a few years.

And guys, I just found this cool poster, gotta share it with yall.
It shows all 180 some odd known vehicles of the US Military including Naval platforms.
(Though after closer inspection I am noting a few are missing)

Link to it

If you click it zooms in and you can see all the words. Glossary is at the bottom.
It looks pretty up to date because it includes a lot of newer stuff.
Worth sharing IMO.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: muzzleflash

That patch pops up a lot. It's a real patch, but so is the one with a Grey on it that loosely translates as "Tastes Like Chicken".

This patch is by far the coolest one I've seen, lol!

a reply to: muzzleflash

The white plane in the box to the right has the closest overall shape (longer thinner neck) & boxy inlet shape that matches the boneyard photo.

A relevant thread at secretprojects with tons of artist renderings and model variants worth sharing

a reply to: Zaphod58




Hahahhaha
Knew you'd love that!

a reply to: muzzleflash

That "RF-19" design was originally a Loral ad drawn up by a graphic artist, fyi. Someone thought it was just too cool not to be real and the mythos began around it.

And the second part was a Testor's model kit. Their Mikoyan kit was far, far closer to reality.

**rubbing my hands backwards and forwards over my sweaty buzz cut***

It's hot in the desert, really hot! Most people have no idea how to survive in the desert. I grew up in the high desert, and it's a rough place. It's very unforgiving. It's not always hot...sometimes it's freezing (and then hot, and then freezing...and hot again).
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I lived there. You worked at night. Or, in the early morning. It gets HOT...during the day.

Sometimes you wear clothes which are white (to reflect the heat), but eventually it just gets too hot.

I love the desert. It's a strange and wonderful place. It's a harsh place, but when you understand it...it's a wonderful place.

Every time one of these fun threads comes out ... I have the same thoughts.

Well, it is a conspiracy site after all.

You see, Zaph is a secret agent who's mission is to keep ATS away from subjects like the F19. I think he works for the Joint Chiefs.

Anzha on the other hand works for NORAD but has the same job description as Zaph.

There used to be another one by the name of Phage but he worked for the CIA but they burned him by switching him to Politics for which he was not suited.

FredT I haven't worked out yet. He could just be a regular guy.

OK, OK, it is just all in fun but .................

What if?

How would you stop this sort of speculation.

Lol

P

a reply to: pheonix358

You been drinking West Ends again. My goodness. Certainly put it out there mate. Crikey, laughing.

Maybe if you go to the airshow down your way and drop a few of these names they may give you a VIP entry and escort.

kind regards,

bally

a reply to: pheonix358

How would you stop this sort of speculation.

By getting them to fixate on things that are not there. Possibly by telling the truth in just the right way as you make you all the more suspicious and then fixate all the harder.

Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. But if you say it just right, no one will believe it.

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: Zaphod58

Hahahhaha
Knew you'd love that!

I do too. ( I really want this plane to exist )
But it does not exist as F this or That. It's a concept model plane.
The History channel boosted this as well. The size of the craft can't sustain hydrogene containers for rocket repellant (for any trejectory) in Low Earth Orbit as the story goes and maintain flight dynamics for it's size plus a human crew.

Aroura has a better chance of actuality than this aircraft.

They are not mothballing a "SUPER SECRET AIRCRAFT IN PLANE /PLAIN VIEW"
It will more likely be destroyed in a remote piece of desert, then torched and buried.

Edit: as a former ARFF, a simple aircraft such like an Airbus, Cessna or Boeing consist of very toxic materials. The photo shown has something still with that lovely black Radar Absorbent Material as Zaphod stated more than once. That's a hazard for Davis Monthan staff. It would have to have been stripped of it's paint job which It is not.

a reply to: pheonix358

You forgot, left out Sammish! No one ever brings him up!

originally posted by: anzha
a reply to: pheonix358

How would you stop this sort of speculation.

By getting them to fixate on things that are not there. Possibly by telling the truth in just the right way as you make you all the more suspicious and then fixate all the harder.

Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. But if you say it just right, no one will believe it.

Hahahahha

Thanks for the good laugh!

originally posted by: pheonix358
Every time one of these fun threads comes out ... I have the same thoughts.

Well, it is a conspiracy site after all.

You see, Zaph is a secret agent who's mission is to keep ATS away from subjects like the F19. I think he works for the Joint Chiefs.

Anzha on the other hand works for NORAD but has the same job description as Zaph.

There used to be another one by the name of Phage but he worked for the CIA but they burned him by switching him to Politics for which he was not suited.

FredT I haven't worked out yet. He could just be a regular guy.

OK, OK, it is just all in fun but .................

What if?

How would you stop this sort of speculation.

Lol

P

The part about Phage was hilarious hahaha!

I wonder what I am than??
Do tell!

This thread is hilarious on so many levels...

Ghostrider the pattern is full :-P